And to keep TOS in the loop.... -----Original Message----- From: Heidi Ellis Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:26 PM To: 'Mel Chua'; Karl Wurst; Jay Borenstein Cc: 'Gregory Hislop' Subject: RE: [TOS] introducing an opensource related effort at Stanford
Hi Jay, Welcome to TOS! Very nice to virtually meet you! My apologies for not responding sooner. (If I just had a few fewer meetings to attend, life would be so much more fun :-) ) I've been involving undergraduates in humanitarian FOSS (HFOSS) projects since 2006. And yes, it has taken a lot of effort and has had ups and downs. But you are correct that there is huge benefit in such involvement and students report very positive experiences (although sometimes not until after the course has ended :-) ). Some sites you may find helpful. I teach a fairly standard Software Engineering course for seniors [0,1]. Feel free to utilize any materials that you find useful from either site. In addition, Greg Hislop and I have a couple of NSF-funded efforts to figure out support and course materials for involving CS and IT students in HFOSS projects [2]. In addition, a group of us have been working on identifying a range of different activities that will span all sorts of different courses, beyond just software contributions [3]. I can't remember if you've been told about the pre-SIGCSE unconference [4] but we'd love to have you join us if you can. And if not, all of us show up in the author list at SIGCSE which is probably the best way to figure out our locations. Welcome to TOS and we're looking forward to meeting you! Heidi [0] http://mars.wnec.edu/~hellis/CS490/ [1] http://mars.wnec.edu/~hellis/CS490/syllabus.html [2] http://www.xcitegroup.org/ [3] http://www.xcitegroup.org/softhum/doku.php?id=f:50ways [4] http://www.sigcse.org/sigcse2012/attendees/pre_symposium_events.php#oss -----Original Message----- From: Mel Chua [mailto:m...@purdue.edu] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 6:42 PM To: Heidi Ellis; Karl Wurst; Jay Borenstein Subject: Fwd: [TOS] introducing an opensource related effort at Stanford Heidi, Karl -- I wanted to specifically connect you with Jay, since: * You've taught (Heidi with GNOME and I believe also Sahana, and Karl with Eucalyptus this semester and a host of projects last year) the sort of course he's teaching and trying to get into open source * Your classes have blogs, documentation, wiki pages, and other public artifacts -- including some of your assignments * You're going to be at SIGCSE I'm sure the three of you will meet up at SIGCSE at some point, but I wanted to put this on your radar and let you know I'll be trying to make sure you all find each other at some point. ;-) Cheers, --Mel PS: I swear I'm getting my Boston trip schedule in order -- I will be at your Monday (Karl) and Tuesday (Heidi) classes for sure, and timing details will... be coming shortly. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TOS] introducing an opensource related effort at Stanford Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:19:16 -0800 From: Jay Borenstein <borenst...@cs.stanford.edu> To: tos@teachingopensource.org Hello all, I teach in the computer science department at Stanford. Of particular note, I teach a couple of senior and master's level project courses designed to expose students to "real world" software engineering experiences. This has been well received by students and industry alike. The above is good, but there is an even better model out there; specifically, I believe there is a opportunity to further improve the quality of the educational experience we are providing to our students while also creating an influx of positive contributions to open source projects. I'm very excited about this and that's what brings me to join this list. Realistically, I expect a great deal of execution pain around making this happen. But, I think the potential payoff is so good for society that I remain very motivated. Current status: The first small step being taken is a project team from one of my existing project classes is working on an existing open source project this year rather a typical industry collaboration. This has necessitated the grafting of curriculum typically used for industry collaborations to something that fits an open source project model. We are learning a ton about what is needed to make this work on a bigger scale. In the long term, I'd like to see my project teams at Stanford collaborating not just with the open source project maintainers, but working in teams that incorporate students at other universities as well. I think this will introduce all sorts of interesting new dimensions to the experience...But, that's a long way from here. For now, I'm pleased to virtually be a part of this group. I imagine and hope I will meet a number of you at SIGCSE in a few days. Please don't hesitate to reach out if this sounds interesting. Best regards, Jay -- Jay Borenstein Stanford University Dept of Computer Science borenst...@cs.stanford.edu c: 650.776.6473 _______________________________________________ tos mailing list tos@teachingopensource.org http://lists.teachingopensource.org/mailman/listinfo/tos _______________________________________________ tos mailing list tos@teachingopensource.org http://lists.teachingopensource.org/mailman/listinfo/tos
