I led Microsoft's public sector consulting services group for the Midwest
for a few years, and have lots of experience being one of the "big 3" you
mentioned above.  That said, I'm long-standing advocate of open software and
platforms.

However, because I was in Microsoft's consulting division, we responded to
RFP's with *solutions, *not products.  The proposals I went after were
typically built for a particular product company in mind, and in fact it
was blatantly obvious at times.  In those cases, there isn't much you can do
as there is usually a political force behind it.  As a vendor, I prefer an
equal playing field when selecting RFP's, and I only went after the RFP's
that were as vendor agnostic as possible.  Additionally, I would not specify
individual products in my high level overview--again, focusing on the *
solution*.

The truth is, the product focused RFP's are becoming less popular (in my
experience).  I would suggest to the committee that they should focus more
on the business solution, rather than a product.

My $.02

Hope it helps!

Ed
Edward R. Swiderski III
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On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:48 AM, MJ Ray <m...@phonecoop.coop> wrote:

> Chris Tyler wrote:
> > I agree with Nicholas here: if an organization is looking for a
> > fully-supported solution, responding with an unsupported (or
> > community-supported with no SLA) DIY open source solution is a
> > non-starter.
> >
> > However, a competent consulting and support company can come in with a
> > FOSS solution [...]
>
> But if you mean a community-developed FOSS solution (rather than one
> developed mainly by the company but is also FOSS), then if the
> organisation insists on a guaranteed Service Level Agreement which
> puts all risk on the support company, the guarantee costs can make it
> uncompetitive.  Guarantee companies cough up their skulls when you're
> trying to guarantee stuff you didn't make yourself.
>
> There are three possible ways round it:
>
> 1. you find new guarantee companies which I haven't discovered that
> offer better prices for FOSS;
>
> 2. you give a guarantee which is only backed by your company, which I
> feel is a bit morally grey unless you've got deep pockets, probably
> not what the requestor really wants and not really a good option for a
> co-op - but I think this is what a lot of people are doing and it'll
> cause much pain whenever any one organisation calls on service to the
> point where the support company collapses;
>
> 3. you persuade the organisation to reword the SLA.
>
> Which is most probable?
>
> So I guess my advice would be to make sure the wording of the target
> SLA doesn't effectively prevent honest FOSS bids. :-)
>
> Or maybe this cold is making me crazy this morning. :)
>
> Regards,
> --
> MJ Ray <m...@phonecoop.coop>
> Kewstoke, Somerset, England
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