On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 08:27 -0500, Karlie Robinson wrote:
> By creating a shopping list of instant solutions, you're telling POSSE 
> participants that TOSS and the people who lead their POSSE will be 
> available, indefinitely, to solve their problems.  Instead you should be 
> looking at how to successfully tell someone "Do it yourself" by creating 
> a situation where they are able to tap the community on their own, 
> outside of TOS, to have their needs met.

Karlie, I'm completely with you on this: I agree wholeheartely that we
should not create sandboxes to play in, and that students should be
working with real open source communities in real open source projects
rather than creating their own toy projects in git instances that aren't
really used by anyone else.

However, we have had profs tell us that they can't get the
infrastructure access they need at their schools -- some can have root
on an internal server, or a server connected to the public Internet, but
not both (root and an accessible IP), and some can't even get a fraction
of that. So being able to provide some things such as a Planet very
quickly could have value.

(Of course, the other side of this is just hosting TOS.o on a
higher-bandwidth link with higher availability for the wiki etc, which
is also important).

-Chris

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