Hi Johan and Bruce,

Your explanations make perfect sense. I will just recommend that all the 
developers do fresh checkouts from this point on.

Thanks,

John.

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 9:54:17 AM UTC Bruce C wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In the past, I too have modified externals on server side to change them 
> from fully specified to relative. This was done by dumping the repo, making 
> the changes and then reloading the modified dump file. At that time, I 
> advised our users to remove local copies and perform a fresh checkout. As I 
> recall, some users didn't do that and the old externals got recommitted.
>
> The problem is that you've changed the repository state in a way that the 
> Subversion clients don't expect. For example, if the working copy checkout 
> is at r1000, it is expected that the server state for r1000 is the same. 
> With the changes you've made, all the working copies are out of sync with 
> the server. The obvious solution is to ensure that all users delete 
> existing working copies and get a clean checkout.
>
> *I'm no expert* but it seems to me that there's a difference between 
> relocate and externals. The relocate option basically updates the local 
> meta information associated with the working copy to change the server 
> location associated with the working copy. However, the externals are 
> defined as a property. That is, external properties are *content* of the 
> working copy. When you switch or relocate I wouldn't expected content 
> changes to be made for the local working. This would seem to be true 
> whether the content changes are to a source code file or an external 
> property of a working copy folder.
>
> The simplest solution would be to ensure that users delete existing 
> checkouts and get a new, clean checkout from the new server. If there are 
> local changes that need to be moved across, one option would be to create a 
> patch from the current checkout and then apply it to the clean checkout. 
> Just check that the externals weren't included in the patch. *I don't 
> know* but I suspect the patch is created against the local pristine copy 
> (that will still have the old externals) so the old externals won't show as 
> a change. However, the patch might be created against the server state 
> (with the new externals) so the old externals will show as a change.
>
> That's how I see it. *I may be wrong.* If I am, I'll learn something too 
> when someone points out the error in my thinking. :-)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> On Tuesday, 17 November 2020 at 08:52:52 UTC [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Hi Hartmut,
>>
>> You'd think that would work, but it didn't! Tortoise svn client is still 
>> showing the old externals URLs in the properties dialog box, but if I look 
>> at the same properties in the repo-browser it shows the new URLs.
>>
>> It's like tortoise has some data cached somewhere which it's refusing to 
>> update.
>>
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 3:34:58 PM UTC H. Niemann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> As an external is a directory’s property, I would suspect that – if you 
>>> committed the changes made by the script – a simple
>>>
>>> svn relocate for the base WC and an svn update would do the trick.
>>>
>>> This would update the properties, and then – after changing those 
>>> properties – would loop over all externals and fix those.
>>>
>>> Or am I missing anything important?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hartmut
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Von:* John Danning via TortoiseSVN <[email protected]> 
>>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 16. November 2020 11:47
>>> *An:* TortoiseSVN <[email protected]>
>>> *Betreff:* Relocate and externals URLs
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> We recently relocated our svn repos to a new server.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> During the relocation we ran a script which changed all our old absolute 
>>> URLs for externals into the new style relative URLs.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> This all worked fine and I can see the new relative URLs if I use the 
>>> repo-browser, or if I do a completely fresh checkout. However, there seems 
>>> to be absolutely no way to get tortoise svn client to see these changed 
>>> URLs when using an existing checkout. They are all pointing at the old 
>>> server when viewed from TortoiseSVN->Properties window.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to get this to work on an existing checkout?
>>>
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