On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:02 PM, Israel <israeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ali > Hi, > (inline below) > On 04/18/2018 07:06 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Israel <israeld...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> > > Hi, > > > >> >> I have begun work on updating the packaging to work with ToriOS on >> Debian Stretch. Unfortunately PPAs are much harder to install, which is >> a downside, and the whole PAE thing with post precise Ubuntu is now the >> same with Stretch. >> > > Why? > > As per: > https://wiki.debian.org/LTS > > Debian Jessie is supported until April 2020 which means 2 more years. That > said, if we must, ToriOS 2.0 will 'also' be based on Debian 8 (AKA Jessie). > > So, problem solved! > > We can worry about that with ToriOS 3.0, maybe?! > > Actually this turned out to be wrong. > Stretch also supports both PAE and non PAE. They dropped support for i586 > so some of the older processor features do not work anymore, but most of > those features are in processors that are extremely old > ToriOS is for old machines and I mean very old. Using the most recent and the latest version of Debian is - IMHO - not good idea at all. I see no reason why we should use Debian 9 instead of 8, at least now?! By now, I mean for ToriOS 2.0! > > > >> This may mean we decide to move back to Ubuntu for future releases (when >> 18.04 comes out perhaps). > > > Ubuntu? > That's not going to help ToriOS nor its users - why? > Well, because: > https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-drops-32-bit-desktop/ > > And, as all of you may know, Ubuntu does not support NON-PAE any more. > > However, we all know that sooner or later, NON-PAE CPU and even 32-bit CPU > will sooner or later be dead and not usable any more. > > > Yes... this is true. Debian Stretch is the way forward for us! > > Starting from ToriOS 3.0 at least, not 2.0 ;-) > > >> Anyhow, I am working on this newer version of >> ToriOS to continue the current developments I have been working on. I >> will also return to Jessie and make an updated image when I have a >> better understanding of Stretch and the requirements of it, or build a >> working ISO (if it is straight forward to do so). >> >> > From the development point of view, I'd love to see ToriOS with 64-bit > image based on Debian 8 rather than Ubuntu, at least for now! > > > I have built a few 64bit images in the past, however I want to get the > current Debian Stretch up-to-par. It is pretty good so far, however there > is a problem setting the locale in the newer version of OBI, since we are > not using dpkg, but instead setting it in a more cross linux distro way. > Why wasting our time? It's better for us, ToriOS and its users to continue with Debian 8. > -- >> Regards >> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios >> Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > Thank you! > > -- > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > Best Regards, > Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > > > -- > Regards > > -- Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." Best Regards, Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
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