Hi,
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:36 AM, George DiceGeorge <dicegeo...@hotmail.com> wrote: > No, this is not a temporary solution > It is more permanent than your option... > because > > under your paid for option with your friend what would happen > if/when he or you die or go bankrupt? > > There is a valid good reason why ToriOS is a community project and not a one-man project ;) > george > > *From:* Ali/amjjawad <amjja...@ubuntu.com> > *Sent:* Monday, January 4, 2016 12:13 PM > *To:* George DiceGeorge <dicegeo...@hotmail.com> ; Nio Wiklund > <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* toriOS Mailing list <torios@lists.launchpad.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Torios] The History of ToriOS Websites > > Hi George and everyone else, > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:39 PM, George DiceGeorge <dicegeo...@hotmail.com > > wrote: > >> maybe you misunderstand me, >> http://torios.dicenews.com/ >> is only set up as a temporary address >> until torios.net or torios.top etc >> are pointed there, >> which ould take five minutes. >> >> Its provided by http://www.hatters.org.uk/ >> > > Indeed I understood and that is why I sent more than one email to explain > the situation and make things clear. We don't need temporary solutions. > While it might seems weird/odd but I prefer our website to be down rather > than waste time and energy on building a temporary website that might serve > us few days. > > You see, we have waited for so long to have a decent website. I'm > personally not interested in temporary solutions and I think Nio agrees > with me. > > > > >> >> They are not ‘professional’ in the sense that they’re not asking for >> money, >> however as its run by a co-op there is less chance of losing the space >> due to a death or bankruptcy, >> which is the case with small businesses which often overextend themselves. >> > > I understand :) > Thanks for explaining! > > >> >> However i suggest you retain control of the domain name just in case >> (but what if/when whoever owns the domain name dies ?? >> (i’ve added mine into my will)) >> >> They dont offer cpanel, >> but do forward an email address. >> >> I’ve used them for many years for many websites without any major >> problems, >> www.tlio.org.uk etc etc >> >> > > The great news is: > https://austenite.co.uk/ > > Kris has updated his packages: > https://austenite.co.uk/forum.html#/discussion/4/new-better-pricing-and-ssl > > It means, in case we agree, the amount of money that we are suppose to > invest into ToriOS is less now :) > > Oh, and we have 1 month for free. > And, we can upgrade or downgrade free of charge at any point. > > torios.top is ready. I did not yet sign up for the server. > > I am not sure how much traffic do we need but looking at the NEW starter > package after the latest update, it sounds good option for us. > > Yes, I think I can also provide emails or forwarders. > > @Nio > I saw your other email. Couldn't reply though. > I agree with you, it is better to pay for 12 months (1 year) rather than > 12 times every month. > > I am NOT yet sure which package is good for us? assuming starter is good > enough: > 3 Pound/Month > 36 Pound/Year > > I am not sure who else is willing to donate beside Nio? > > The more people we have, the less each one will pay per year :) > > > >> [george] >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Ali/amjjawad <amjja...@ubuntu.com> >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 2, 2016 10:21 PM >> *To:* toriOS Mailing list <torios@lists.launchpad.net> >> *Subject:* [Torios] The History of ToriOS Websites >> >> Dear all, >> >> Because some of us have misunderstood my email lately about donating for >> a server and get our website to live on, here is some CLEAR email to shade >> the light on the history of ToriOS websites :) >> >> >> 1. torios.org was the first domain that ToriOS project got. However, >> the one who registered that domain had the entire access to the domain and >> server and none of us had full access, even me the founder of this >> project. >> One bad day, he disappeared and we have never heard of him ever again >> until >> this very moment. What happened to torios.org at the moment? check >> yourself: https://www.gandi.net/whois/details?search=torios.com and >> we have lost our dedicated email address. I had amjja...@torios.org >> but not any more. >> 2. Phill of the Lubuntu has donated a domain torios.net and a virtual >> machine where torios.net lived. However, because it was FREE and >> there is no obligations whatsoever except friendship and good will to >> help, >> that wasn't good enough to be honest. What happened to torios.net? >> check yourself. It has been down for so many times and we have not been >> able to share one single post on our website for ages now! >> 3. Now, when I suggest to have a decent server with a decent company >> which is owned by decent man I vouch for him, when some money involved, >> some seem to refuse the idea. Sorry, but that's the one and only path I >> have in mind at the moment and as a founder, I find it the best path ever >> to avoid unneeded problems. >> 4. NO to any temporary solution :) I am sorry if I'll sound rude to >> George but having something like: http://torios.dicenews.com/ >> <http://torios.dicenews.com/wp-admin> is not decent at all. ToriOS is >> not a toy, it's a decent project and the website should be something to >> reflect that as well. >> 5. I have myself tried the FREE solutions. http://kibo.computer/ was >> my business project. Out of 12 months, the website was down for 4 months >> total or more. Why? that's what happens when you think FREE solutions FTW. >> In fact, FREE is not always good at all :) >> >> >> >> So, hopefully this will enlighten us a bit :) >> >> >> >> If by any chance you have BETTER solutions/ideas, kindly share :) >> >> HOWEVER, before you do, kindly keep in mind that ToriOS website should >> NOT be down for ages just because of whatever non logical reason. >> >> >> >> We have a project to run, not a joke to tell. >> >> >> >> -- >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >> >> Best Regards, >> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >> >> *http://kibo.computer <http://kibo.computer>* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu >> GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios >> Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > > -- > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > Best Regards, > Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > > *http://kibo.computer <http://kibo.computer>* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu > GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> > -- Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." Best Regards, Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> *http://kibo.computer <http://kibo.computer>* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
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