Hi Nio! (inlines) On 02/24/2015 07:38 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi Israel and toriosadores, > > I downloaded, checked and tested 'ToriOS-i386-beta2.iso' > and it has improved a lot from 'ToriOS-beta.iso' in only 2 days :-) > But I have some suggestions for improvements. > > *Live Session* > > 1. *Larger fonts in the OBI* that is not full-screen > > I suggest that you change the Exec line to > > Exec=xterm -fa default -fs 13 -e /usr/share/OBI/starter > > in the file /Desktop/obi.desktop > > There is also an icon for it (to tell it from the full screen version), > > Icon=/usr/share/OBI/02_obi-splash-icon.png > > (to tell from 02_obi-hi-res-splash-icon.png) I do have this fix, but I was also waiting to hear if you wanted a gxmessage/xmessage dialog for opening the 3 docs
> > 2. *Improved help* 'partition-help.txt' > > Nice that you make it dynamic :-) but there are two things I suggest > that you change > > a. The file system in a shared data partition with Windows can be NTFS > too. I think it is the best option, at least for a big data partition on > a hard disk drive. If you want to share with MacOS, it might be limited > to FAT 32 or FAT 16. > > b. You are showing the drive size and swap size in sectors (512 bytes). > I think you should show Mibibytes instead, which is used by gparted, so > divide by 1024*1024/512 = 2048 > and tell the user that it is Mibibytes. Thank you, this is indeed what I wanted. I am all over the place trying to make things work nicely. And I cannot test OBI on the fly as much. I edit things in a live session, and then make changes on my computer... so sometimes I do not get everything. > ----- > You can install a system from a tarball into two partitions: > > one root file system partition and > one swap partition > > This way it is possible to create a *dual boot* device with an existing > (already > installed) operating system. It is also possible to create a separate > *data partition*, that can be used by linux as well as Windows. (Must be > FAT32 or FAT16) > > # Comment: Can also be NTFS :-) I think I just took your help text and added in some code from mkp* I mostly worked on getting it to list drives for the new user, so thanks for pointing this out!! > OBI detects 2 devices > sda sdb > > Edit and create partitions > > One partition should be labeled 'obi-root' > One (smaller) partition should be labeled 'obi-swap'. > > These labeled partitions can be identified and selected automatically > Manual selection is also possible, if you do not want to temporarily > label them this way. > > For example: > sda is 78140160 > the swap should be around 4665248 > > # Comment: You are showing sectors (512 bytes). > # I think you should show Mibibytes instead, > # which is used by gparted, so divide by 1024*1024/512=2048 > ----- > > c. I hardly noticed the window with this partition help text. I suggest > that you put a delay of 3 seconds before the script continues and open > gparted on top (and hides it). That way people will get aware of the > help text. That is a great idea > ----- > ...q > fi > sleep 3 > sudo gparted && sudo "$path/obi"Is that by intention or a bug? > ----- I intended for the user to complete using gparted before going on to obi This way obi waits for gparted to finish. > d. I would also suggest displaying the 'partition-help.txt' with the > following string (one line, which makes it easier to see and read) Honestly it should use xedit first and foremost. So I will force xedit as the default text editor in the build. xedit is really a nice text editor (it is like pico/nano in many ways) there is no syntax highlighting though... but honestly someone who likes syntax highlighting will be choosing their favorite (geany/gedit/mousepad/etc...) > xterm -fa default -fg black -bg beige -fs 13 -geometry 80x26 -title > "Help to partition" -hold -e fold -sw 80 ~/partition-help.txt > > The size of the window should be made big enough for the whole text. The > current text fits in 26 lines (including the final line feed). Modify > the size if you change the file. > > or if you prefer zenity > > zenity --window-icon="info" --title="Help for partitioning" --width=800 > --height=600 --text-info --filename ~/partition-help.txt > > It is possible to control fonts and high-light text in zenity (as I do > with mkusb). > > I can tweak partition-help (text and display method) for the display > alternative that you decide to choose :-) Yes please do this!! That would be a huge help! > > 3. *nano is borked* segmentation fault > > I removed and installed it with > > sudo apt-get remove nano > sudo apt-get install nano > > and it started working. But now the help text wants to be shown by less > (xdg-open). So you need to do something (according to 2d.) I know about this. I think it is because I install without recommends (slims the image to CD size). Not entirely sure why, but I think I can make it work by installing it separately with recommends. > > 4. *Desktop settings* > > The desktop is black in the live session. Is that by intention or a bug? > I cannot change it. Nothing happens when I click on the icons to 'get > there'. hmmm... There is no wallpaper? The desktop issue is something related to needing to rewrite the base jwmrc file. if you run jwm-settings-manager -r jwm-settings-manager -d it will open.... so I will have to find out why it wants to crash initially, and fix things in the image, and the program. > > 5. Description of OBI is on the desktop, but not the other two help > texts (OBI-quick-start-manual.pdf and README.pdf). Is that by intention? > That you think that help text is relevant, but not the other texts. I > realize that there is the ToriOS manual too. This is a side effect of using pcmanfm to put icons on the desktop per Ali's suggestion. OBI installs those to the Desktop folder of the Live user (i.e. /root/Desktop in our case) We can add in whatever we want to there, and remove the bottom panel. > > *Installed system* > > 1. *Slow boot* > > It was unually slow to get ready after installing in my IBM Thinkpad T42 > with Pentium M. I thought it was borked, but finally it arrived at the > login screen. There was some information that it needed 'extra 60 > seconds to configure the network'. I don't know, if this was a temporary > error, or if something has changed concerning network in the installed > system (the tarball that comes with the beta2 iso file). But without a > working network. I may have to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and comment all the other stuff out. > I started it with > > sudo NetworkManager > > and started the panel applet with > > nm-applet > > (I know it can be started with a menu option too.) > > > *Comments* > > free -m --> 55 MB RAM without network and 68 MB RAM with network and > applet running !!! > > df -h --> 1.6G (Gibibytes)t > > It is really light :-) I know, this is really amazing to me. This is very close to our original goal of 50MB. So I am very glad for under 60MB being attainable! I think 50-70MB on average is much better than any current system that will (hopefully) be as easy to use, and not look like Windows 95 :P > > Maybe I find more things to discuss or debug ... please do!! > Best regards > Nio -- Regards -Israel ToriOS Team -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
