Hi Ali and Phill, [replying inline] Best regards/Nio 2014-03-19 07:06, Ali Linx skrev: > Hi Nio, Phill and everyone :) > > Since we have nothing serious going on here, I thought to start this > discussion which should be helpful for ToriOS at the end of the day :) > > So, let's see ... I'm a bit confused of what we do have. By 'we', I mean > the community or the group of people who are interested in 'Old > Hardware' and that applies to Lubuntu, ToriOS, etc. > > Not sure if everyone is aware of this or not but there you go: > > Phill and Nio, both were and still very keen to work on finding a > solution for old machines that are no longer supported with newer > released of Ubuntu and eventually Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc. > > Nio was working hard on the Non-PAE part. > Phill was working on new community re-spin for Lubuntu. > We're no different here as ToriOS community as we have the same target - > support old machines. > > I'm trying to understand more about this .. I'm lost because of so many > emails have been sent and I'm not sure what is going on. > > So, how many Kernels do we have here? > > Will 14.04 default Kernel support the Non-PAE machines by default?
The 14.04 32-bit kernel is a PAE kernel. There is a built-in check for the boot option 'forcepae', which makes it possible to use with [almost all] Pentium M and Celeron M CPUs. But it will not work with pre-Pentium II and other CPUs without PAE capability. > What is the difference then between that and the Kernel that Phill and > Bodhi Zazen were/are working on? This is a '14.04' non-pae kernel, that can work with CPUs without PAE capability. > How all that could help ToriOS so that we don't really have to re-invent > the wheel? > > There are 3 different paths/directions and at the end, all these meet on > one point (support for old machines) but still these paths are a bit > different so: > > 1- We need to understand more about these 3 paths. > 2- We might have mutual collaboration to reduce time and effort > 3- We, as ToriOS Community now need to understand how different we could > be and what we could offer? What is the third path? Do you mean continuing to build the re-spin on 12.04 LTS? > Sorry if my words seem crazy or unclear ... I couldn't sleep well with > all what is going on recently with my real life so forgive me if I'm > creating more confusion here while trying to understand what is going on?! > > I asked for a meeting with Phill and Nio. Sorry for not catching up with > you, guys. > > Do you prefer a Google Hangout Meeting? or an IRC one? Phill, I know > your answer already but in both cases, I want the meeting to be > recorded. Yes, I know how to do that on both platform (Google and IRC) - > I just need to know which one you prefer? I prefer a written chat. I'm not used to IRC, but it can work for me. I would be more convenient with a google (written) chat or maybe skype-chat. > Also, if anyone would like to join us, that is good too :) > > We need to re-think and re-consider our options because I want to save > time and effort. If there is something useful of what Phill and Nio and > others have done so far, I see no reason why we don't use that as well :) > > Saving time, energy and effort is a target for any project in the world. > > Thank you! > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
