On 02/20/2014 06:02 PM, William wrote:
To be perfectly honest, I don't think people know what they are voting
on or why. The website is the last of your worries when you still need
to settle on a DE and installer. You should consider scrapping this
vote altogether, then let Israel develop for a week, quietly and
uninterrupted, and whatever he comes back with you can start judging
and requesting changes on. I watch the mailing list, and website
development looks like it's getting micro-managed and as someone who
personally spent a decade working in IT, I can promise you that's a
bad thing. The mind of a project manager (you) and the mind of a
developer (Israel) are not on the same wavelength. Give him and the
website issue space for a week, and don't even worry about it while
you address more important issues like what the components of your
distro are going to be and how they fit together. Your product.
You refer to this as fun, and that's all fine and stuff, but don't
make a game out of it - it is serious business.
Just some advice from someone who has seen how these things go down in
the corporate world - time and time again, for better and for worse.
William
On 02/20/2014 04:31 AM, Ali Linx wrote:
Hi,
On 02/16/2014 06:35 PM, Ali Linx wrote:
Hi everyone,
It is time to take our website from the Alpha Phase to the Beta
Phase. In order to do that, we do need your feedback:
http://torios.org/news/website-feedback/
Thank you!
Note: Please do not reply this email but rather click on the above
link and send your feedback as explained in there :)
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Ali/amjjawad
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad
So, the list is super quiet, ha? I see ... thought to break the ice
and send something :P
15 responses
ONLY!!!
Hmmm, should we stop and carry on? how long do I have to wait for
more votes? it seems choosing a logo was more fun for people than
voting for our website :(
Let me know and sorry I couldn't login to IRC for two nights .. I
have bad pain on my neck and shoulder and I am sure you know why :P
I know, I know ... save it hehehe
REPLY :D
I am waiting for your opinion about the vote ....
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Ali/amjjawad
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad
Hi everyone!
This is not the week for me to spend on a website. I am busy with
something else right now (LMMS), and on top of that I have 3 sick kids,
as well as myself.
I think Ali has had some struggles getting across his vision for the
website. I do believe this should remain fun, and also harmless. I do
not want this to turn into a 'job' where we all have to perform to some
standard (beside our own desire to make something of high quality). I
appreciate the gesture behind this thought, though William. I understand
that you have had frustrations in some situations that are similar. I
have felt torn between different ideas, and I have tried to capture what
I had perceived as Ali's vision for the site. I do agree that the DE
should take precedence over the website for now. I have had no time to
try again to download and install the 12.04 mini ISO. In my experience
JWM has been the quickest and lightest WM out there, but I think we need
a DE. I don't mean a DE in the sense of LXDE/Gnome/KDE/etc.. etc.. I
mean that we need an entire environment. We need to handle USB
auto-mounting. We need to handle the desktop (icons are something XP
users can rely on heavily) We need to have core components, like a file
manager (which can handle the other two things usually). This may
require Alex to do some serious work. Some sort of small light C/C++
program with FLTK (is there a tool kit that is lighter?) to configure
the panel and windows, etc.. Or something to automatically handle
changing the wallpaper in JWM. Something to handle automounting as
well. This would require 'creating' a JWM DE. Of course I am simply
assuming JWM is the best (which I think it is based on the memory
requirements, and its simple beauty).
I think our whole focus should shift to the DE priority (as William also
stated). A website without a product is simply not important.
I really appreciate each one of you, and all the hard work you are
doing. I have been absent from IRC, and you all may have this stuff
figured out.
But, I needed to let everyone know that I cannot spend the time to work
on a website right now, and I also think it would be wiser to focus on
the 'product' we intend to create.
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