Hi Ali, while you were busy, we did 'add' an alternative 'software center'. It is actually an apt protocol handler (this means that when you click on a web link apt://lmms it will install lmms). I also added a webpage link to apps.ubuntu.com. So it isn't exactly adding a new software center, it is really just letting people install things from the browser (without needing 100kb space for apturl or the behemoth ubuntu-software-center) it is only about 15kb or so...
On 04/25/2015 04:31 AM, Ali Linx wrote: > > > On 04/25/2015 06:38 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> Hi Israel, > > Hi all, > > I'm new to this project (ToriOS? what kind of name is that?) so slow > down with me :P >> >> Would it be interesting to have LSC as an option in the installed system >> (tarball) of ToriOS (without the database (~80 MB))? It might be >> bug-fixed in such a way, that it will suit for this purpose - that the >> database will be created the first time the program is run. > Day by day, I find that ToriOS has gone a bit of track :) > > When ToriOS was started, the idea was to provide the extra minimal > system ever! > > Also, I have showed my interest to stay away from Lubuntu as much as > possible. I have personal reasons and I have logical general reasons > to be super extra very honest :) > > A side from all the above, Terminal does exist + Synaptic does exist = > why would we go for the 3rd alternative to install a package/software? > that's way too much, if you ask me! > > While I am NOT a developer and while I had and still have my OWN > real-life battle/war, that does not mean I am off when it comes to > decide the best for ToriOS ;) > > No offense taken from my side and I hope nothing from your side, > everyone but such decisions (add/remove) stuff should be either: > > Referred back to me and/or Israel > > Or > > We vote for :) > > Speaking from long experience, sometimes, voting is not really > smart/good idea. > > That said, I'd call this case closed and stay away from a 3rd > alternative to install any package :) > > However, I'd like to see what other things here ;) > I hate to be a dictator :P > > Thank you, everyone! > > >> >> See the following correspondence: >> >> Best regards >> Nio >> ___________________________________ >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/1446830 >> >> >> Jörn Schönyan (joern-schoenyan) wrote on 2015-04-23: #35 >> >> Hi Nio, >> >> 1. it is way faster, really a big difference. USC was made a bit faster, >> but it's still not comparable to LSC. >> 2. I guess most Lubuntu users are using it, but alternate iso installs >> are quite rare. And as the DB is regenerated from time to time, nobody >> noticed that issue. >> 3. It's working fine mostly and doesn't take much space, so I think we >> should keep it. Remember, LSC was the thing how I came to Lubuntu ;-) >> >> @Walter: we could redesign it, yes. It could use Appstream data, like >> the future Lubuntu/LXQt software center will. But it would be really a >> lot of work and we don't have the manpower, I think. I think "Won't fix" >> is the only solution in our position. Would only be worth the effort if >> other flavours would like to adopt LSC - Ubuntu GNOME wants it, but only >> as an interim solution. Xubuntu doesn't want it, so I think it will be >> abandoned (more or less) soon. >> >> >> >> -------- Vidarebefordrat meddelande -------- >> Ämne: Re: LSC >> Datum: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 07:32:21 +0200 >> Från: Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com> >> Till: Jörn Schönyan <joern.schoen...@web.de> >> >> Den 2015-04-23 21:16, Nio Wiklund skrev: >>> Hi Jörn, >>> >>> Continuing the discussion privately from: >>> >>> --- >>> "OK, let us call it "won't fix" now. >>> >>> I would suggest that Jörn and I discuss the issue privately and maybe >>> agree about the details and after that ask Julien (gilir) to help us >>> add >>> such a file when creating the alternate iso file. I guess there is a >>> set >>> of scripts (similar to (but more advanced than) what I use to create >>> 9w), and if that is the case, it is straightforward to create a file >>> (which can be empty, just have a specified path/name). Jörn and I might >>> also find a better solution, that needs nothing beyond what can be >>> included in he LSC package." >>> --- >>> >>> I think the details are best discussed privately rather than via the >>> bug >>> report >>> >>> You mentioned that the database is small, way too small to be the >>> correct one in comment #23 of the bug report #1446830: >>> >>> --- >>> "No, it is clearly a design flaw. While the DB is being generated, it >>> drops every package without installation candidate. On the alternate >>> install, there are no informations about the avaible packages so >>> everything is dropped, if it isn't installed. That is why DB is that >>> small, it should be around 80 megs (see #2). >>> >>> Running apt-get update as postinst would have no effect if no internet >>> connection is avaible (not sure if it works with internet). To be >>> honest, I don't see a good fix for this. We could avoid dropping of >>> entries without installation candidate, but that would mean that >>> uninstallable packages appear in LSC." >>> --- >>> >>> Can the decision to regenerate the database be triggered by the >>> combination of >>> >>> (smaller database than a certain size) && (access to the internet) >>> >>> when running the LSC. So effectively, it would happen the first time >>> the >>> user runs LSC is systems installed by the alternate iso file. >>> >>> I think it would be possible for you to tell what should be the >>> threshold or size of the database for triggering the regeneration? >>> >>> Maybe the threshold can be 'in the middle' between a typical 'too small >>> size' and a typical 'full size database'. As a temporary bugfix it need >>> not last forever, but might last at least until the next LTS release. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Nio >>> >> Hi again Jörn, >> >> If you really would prefer a separate file as a flag, please tell me >> what would be a good path and name of that file, and I will ask Julien >> Lavergne to create such a file (it can be an empty file) with the >> alternate installer. I'm not sure that he would do it, but it should be >> easy for him, if wants to help us. >> >> The reason I ask, if the size of the database would be enough to >> determine the need of regeneration, is that it would make us less >> dependent of help from Julien. >> >> Best regards >> Nio >> ___________________________________ >> >> > -- Regards -Israel ToriOS Team -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios-dev Post to : torios-dev@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios-dev More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
