Em ter, 16 de abr de 2019 às 13:35, Cyaniventer <cyaniven...@riseup.net> escreveu:
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:05:50 -0400 > "GTI .H" <gti90...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Em ter, 16 de abr de 2019 às 12:33, Cyaniventer > > <cyaniven...@riseup.net> escreveu: > > > > > No! Don't use it if you are actually very serious about this. > > > > > > > Well, my mistake can cost me my life. > > My country is one of those who has blocked WhatsApp and dings who > > tries to show their abuses. It is repressive, but for some reason the > > world sees it with good eyes, perhaps because it is not openly > > declared socialist, but it is certainly authoritarian, corrupt and > > very dangerous and constantly puts innocents in jail without the > > slightest humanitarian feeling. > > My advice is to stay away from Tor. DO NOT connect to Tor network > directly because if they are blocking whatsapp then probably there are > idiots in power and they would do the same thing for using Tor. > Excuse me if I get it wrong, but are you worried about me or the Tor network? heheheh... They are not blocking WhatsApp currently, I said they have blocked in the past. And Tor I think it was never blocked except for some sites like Interpol, I do not know why. Why??? There is no doubt that there are idiots in power, and the thing is even worse, we have a "*Big Dog Fight*", some order to block/arrest, then others order to unblock/free, is a "*Russian Roulette*", TOTAL legal insecurity. > > > or whatever you want and set that vpn to > > > > > `always on`. Idk what else you can do, also your first method of > > > > > routing your traffic through your computer is not that good. > > > > > > > > > Why? > > > > > > because what if something fails somewhere and your ip gets leaked? > > > are you really sure that everything you've setup will work without > > > fail? Also see nat...@freitas.net 's email, > Since WhatsApp is > > > executable code on your Android phone, it can access information > > > about your device directly. This includes accessing your "real" IP > > > address through local network information APIs. > > > > > > > That's why I'm here asking, I'm not sure of anything. > > If they've blocked whatsapp and you can face jail time for using it, > then don't use it. If you want to talk encrypted with your > friends/families then there are lots of other services that support end > to end encryption. signal, wire, keybase, email with gpg, xmpp, matrix, > (tutanota, protonmail - both, not good but okay in this case). > No, the arrest is for those who speak what they do not want. The goal is to talk with friends/familie and all other professionals. > On android download f-droid (https://f-droid.org) and look for delta > chat, that probably makes email with gpg easier. For gpg download > openkeychain. you can also use k9-mail if you don't care about the ui. > > for gpg resources see: > https://invidio.us/watch?v=4PZb0tkxuUk, > https://invidio.us/watch?v=GSIDS_lvRv4, > and links below. > Thanks for the tip, but this will isolate me from others in our unique ways of communicating. > I'll take a look, but what the best current way is the physical > > protection how to use public WiFi far. > > It's disappointing. > > Yes, feels bad. Internet was meant to be open for everyone. > > Jailtime for using something like whatsapp is insanity, they will fill > up the jails real quick if they try to arrest everyone. Do they only > arrest those who speak against them, or everyone? You have to decide > for yourself what you are going to do about this. > > These websites have good information and you should read it all. > https://ssd.eff.org/ > https://sec.eff.org/ > https://riseup.net/en/security Jailtimeis is for what we speak. We are breaking records of prisons, here everyone is called bandit for almost nothing. The repression is very strong. They create a mythological fugue, such as "bandit", they point the finger at someone and everyone runs off the poor, it's lynching all the time, we have a genocide in full swing, it dies more here than Russia and the US can kill together in the war against ISIS in Syria. > The real question should've been, `how do I hide my whatsapp usage from > my government/isp?`. You should always explain what you are trying to > achieve and not how you would achieve the method you thought. Maybe > someone will have some other idea that is better than yours. > We can use WhatsApp, we can not talk what they do not like! It would be "How do I hide my whatsapp origin IP from my government / isp?" > Anyways, I looked up that article and read it and I wouldn't recommend > doing that because you can still get it wrong and thats going to be > very bad in your case. Also see, https://tails.boum.org/ > > Connect to Tor through a bridge and not directly. See > https://invidio.us/watch?v=DkEqWGF3cvg, > https://invidio.us/watch?v=VmsFxBEN3fc, > https://invidio.us/watch?v=JWII85UlzKw, > https://bridges.torproject.org/ Thank you, I have much to read and study, I thought that someone had already walked this path and would have the solution more ready. -- Regards GTI -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
