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>> Are you aware that the FreeBSD project indiscriminately block all Tor >> users from their official forums? Not even read access. This is a >> problem because the forums are a vital source of help and solutions >> to problems. Why do you block even read access if not to send a very >> aggressive message *against* Tor users? https://forums.freebsd.org/ > > > It doesn't seem consistently blocked from my angle. I can access over > Tor, even without javascript enabled, but on occasion it is blocked. > It's possible there's dynamic blocking of specific exits. > > But quite honestly, we should all figure out how to directly convince > www providers that they shouldn't block all Tor. Expressing it here does > little. Blocking Tor IPs for www access tends to be a blunt "security > measure" ignorant of the costs, and that's a reality we have to contend > with. > > Maybe you reach out to the forum hosters, and when I get a chance, I can > ping my contacts. > > more comments inline. > >> >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 11:28 AM, grarpamp <grarp...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> BSD's are a family, with FreeBSD the largest userbase. It's has >>> been around in essentially the same admin form for 25+ years... >>> base = kernel + userland, then apps. >>> >>> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.1R/announce.html >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ >>> https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/11.1/ >>> >>> mini-memstick found above can be written to USB and directly used >>> as a "live" system without "installing" it. Write it to a 16G USB, >>> boot it, add some more ZFS partitions and customize it from there. >>> Or "install" it to a second USB which is also "live". >>> >>> They don't preload the base images with their own idea of app sets, >>> in fact /usr/local is empty for you to choose what you want... X, >>> window manager, shells, browser, MUA, etc. >>> > > yes. Take a quick browse at hier(7), likely the most underread manual > page on every operating system. /usr/local is only for installed ports > and packages not in the base system. > > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=hier&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+11.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch=default&format=html > >>> https://www.freebsd.org/ports >>> >>> There's around 31,000 prebuilt application packages. Choose your >>> list and 'pkg install <packagename>' each one. >>> >>> The latest versions of all those mentioned are in there... >>> >>> Tor 0.3.2.10 OpenVPN 2.4.5 OpenJDK 8.162.12 I2P 0.9.33 Freenet - >>> Not yet, but as with I2P, grabbing the jar and following the docs >>> is easy enough. > > OnionShare is in the pipeline, and it needs a bump. > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225539 > > (FreeBSD Bugzilla not blocking Tor...) > >>> >>> Also mentioned was 'kenel hardening', 'secure OS', and 'slick'... a >>> bit meaningless without further explicit example, use case, threat >>> model. People can join HardenedBSD, TrustedBSD, create new, or use >>> as is after seeing what's there. >>> >>> OpenBSD is pretty awesome too. >>> > > Those "three BSDs" are different. TrustedBSD is an old security focused > research project that was (mostly) integrated into FreeBSD base. > >>> With OPNsense, TrueOS and FreeNAS, DragonflyBSD, NetBSD, NAS4Free >>> making up most of the rest of the current general and specific use >>> space you can search out. >>> > > DragonFly BSD is an actual BSD which forked from FreeBSD a long while > back, and NetBSD was the first BSD out of Berkeley Unix along with > FreeBSD. The other projects use a BSD as their base to provide specific > tools. > >>> Yes one problem with "linux" is you have to learn both the way of >>> linux *and* the way of whichever distro on top is pulling the >>> fragmented bazaar together, then maybe discover the first random >>> distro out of dozens is not a good fit, or the distro guts and >>> remodels itself on a whim, then take a shot at another random >>> distro... a lot of time wasted on the distro layer alone. Do that >>> problem two or three times and were probably better off running >>> 'Linux From Scratch'. >>> >>> There's also people doing some TorBSD.org BSD + Tor / TBB project >>> you could try / join. >>> > > https://www.torbsd.org/ and we have a wiki at https://wiki.torbsd.org > >>> Even Whonix. > > g > -- 34A6 0A1F F8EF B465 866F F0C5 5D92 1FD1 ECF6 1682 -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
