Anybody have any experience with orbot/ orweb for android? On Jan 16, 2016 12:50 PM, "juan" <juan....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 23:34:00 -0700 > Mirimir <miri...@riseup.net> wrote: > > > On 01/15/2016 01:11 PM, juan wrote: > > > > I like your attitude, juan, but recommending proxies is dangerous :( > > > I'm not really recommending anything, just making some > observations. > > > > > > > > Fact remains : in the vast majority of cases a single > > > ordinary proxy will prevent a company like facebook from > > > learning where you are or who you are. > > > > It's possible. But most users will not know how to test, and will just > > blindly assume that they're safe. > > > Well, that may be so, but that's a general problem. People > ahould study the systems they use. > > > > > > > I think VPNs are routinely used by people who share files - > > > something considered a 'crime' by the criminal mafia knonw > > > as 'government' - and yet the identity of those people isn't > > > compromised. > > > > VPN services, as long as they don't leak or fail open, are actually > > fairly safe for torrenting and streaming. But those are not "crimes". > > You get sued for copyright violation. When there are "crimes" > > involved, LEA go after VPN services and their ISPs, and all bets are > > off. > > Not meaning to get into an academic discussion, but... > > https://www.lib.purdue.edu/uco/CopyrightBasics/penalties.html > > "Copyright infringement is the act of violating any of a > copyright owner’s exclusive rights" > > "Infringer pays ... damages and profits." > > "from $200 to $150,000 for each work infringed." > > "pays for all attorneys fees and court costs." > > " infringer can go to jail." > > Again, this is a 'crime' only because the government criminals > say so but regardless, it can be a dangerous and costly activity > and resisting the 'authority' of the government criminals will > get you murdered in no time. > > I do agree that if you use a VPN to do something that upsets > the government mafia more than 'piracy' does, then the risks are > even higher. > > > > > > ...and using the bittorrent network is more risky than > > > logging into NSA-Facebook. > > > > That's debatable. It depends on what you're doing on Facebook. > > Well, I'm thinking about typical use cases like posting > picutres of cats =) > > Posting anything more outrageous, like a pair of tits, is a > crime punishable by the facebook police. > > > > > > I agree that Facebook's real-name policy renders this rather > > pointless. If you're a Chinese dissident, how does it help to > > circumvent GFW and hide your location when you reveal your real name? > > > If you are a 'chinese dissident' why would you bother posting on > facebook anyway? > > > > I used to have a Facebook account, but it disappeared when I couldn't > > provide a working number for text verification :( > > > Well, truth be told, it seems to be possible to register > accounts from argentina without giving any real information. > Then again, I've done that using my local ISP, not a proxy. > > > > > > <SNIP> > > > > -- > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
