On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:58:50 +0100 Markus Hitter <m...@jump-ing.de> wrote:
> > On 32C3 a few weeks ago ... > > https://media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7322-tor_onion_services_more_useful_than_you_think > > ... Roger cheered a lot about Facebook offering a hidden service. > > To be honest, this surprises me quite a bit. Of course. It's absurd. There's nothing hidden about facebook's location so a 'hidden' service is...nonsense. > Tor is for anonymisation, > so one can escape tax paid surveillance by NSA, GCHQ & Co., which is > useful. And then such a Tor user connects to Facebook, where one has > to log in, making this anonymisation completely pointless? At least I > don't get the point. The point is propaganda. Facebook wanting to pose as defending privacy when they actually are privacy's worst enemy. > Even assuming that Facebook doesn't regularly exchange user data with > NSA, this makes mass surveillance trivial. Useful, welcome, or not, > Facebook does mass surveillance on its own, as stated business > practice. Also, I'm pretty sure if another Manning-like case appears, > NSA would immediately command Facebook to offer the related user > identification. ...assuming facebook isn't already fowarding relevant data in real time, all of the time... > > If there's cheering about Facebook hidden services, shouldn't always a > note be added that logging in there identifies a user, making Tor > (almost) pointless? > > > Markus > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
