On 08/23/2013 10:13 PM, Nima wrote: > mirimir: >> On 08/23/2013 05:27 PM, mick wrote: > >>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:41:13 -0400 Nathan Suchy >>> <[email protected]> allegedly wrote: >>> >>>> I'd beg to differ. There are very good VPN providers that keep >>>> absolutely no logs so you would have anonymity in that case. >>> >>> How do you pay for them? Bitcoin? >>> >>> (Serious question. But, I recognise, off-topic.) > >> It's actually on topic, at least somewhat. > >> Yes, you can pay with Bitcoins. But first, you must anonymize them >> through multiple mixing services, via Tor. Otherwise, Bitcoins are >> not at all anonymous, because all transactions are in the >> blockchain. > >> Multibit clients work well over Tor. They're local, but they don't >> download the blockchain. You can easily run them in Whonix etc. >> Reputable mixing services include http://bitlaundry.appspot.com/, >> http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion/ and http://6fgd4togcynxyclb.onion/. > >> You can also pay for VPN services by mailing cash. > > > And you've to trust those VPN providers to stay true to their words > and keep their promises for not keeping *any* log. And then... you've > to pray they wouldn't get tapped, keep their traffic secure, etc etc. > > Privacy by design vs privacy by promise
We're talking here about tunnelling VPNs through Tor, so the VPN provider knows nothing about you, except from the money trail. -- tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
