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i wasnt going to, but now i have to...
i dont know what tech or knowledge they have.
but i imagine that if you angered them, and they wanted your keys, they
would come and get them.
physically or electronically.
<again, only cause nsa whistle-blowers has said so.>
so lets not speculate :)

i have a lot of faith in the developers, but if you feel that they are
missing something, please find a way to contribute that knowledge to the
project. that way we all benefit.

On 04/04/2013 08:23 AM, Tim wrote:
> Those at the root of the NSA have technology that is far faster and more vast 
> than you imagine it
currently to be. To decrypt keys, It does not take what you might
otherwise expect.
>
> I'm sure one or more of the developers are either in denial or part of
the "security" apparatus or both. I would not hold your breath.
>
> Be well.
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM, George Torwell <bpmcont...@gmail.com
<mailto:bpmcont...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     i may be wrong but:
>     - we are talking about keys of every node along the path. how can you
>     increase that just locally?
>     - keep in mind that we dont know if factoring such a key is
likely, if i
>     remember correctly that talk mentioned huge amounts of computation
power
>     and electricity.
>         something like a year for a 40 mega watt consuming data center
per 1024
>     bit key. <maybe way off, but the point being - its really expensive.>
>         on the other hand its rumored that the utah data center will
have 65
>     mega watts from its own power station.
>     im pretty sure that the developers will move us safely from these
keys as
>     soon as its needed :)
>
>
>     On 4 April 2013 13:54, Bernard Tyers <ei8...@ei8fdb.org
<mailto:ei8...@ei8fdb.org>> wrote:
>
>     > That's what I was thinking, I just didn't know if there was another
>     > reasons.
>     >
>     > I guess the key size is configured on the Tor node? I haven't
found it
>     > anywhere in the configuration (I'm using TBB on OS X).
>     >
>     > Is it possible to increase the size of the key, if say I've got
a big
>     > server running as a node?
>     >
>     > If there are nodes using different length keys, is the security
relying on
>     > the node with the smallest key length?
>     >
>     > Thanks.
>     >
>     > Bernard
>     >
>     > ----
>     > Written on my small electric gadget. Please excuse brevity and
(possible)
>     > misspelling.
>     >
>     > Alexandre Guillioud <guillioud.alexan...@gmail.com
<mailto:guillioud.alexan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > >The bigger the key is, the longer (cpu cycle) it take to
encrypt/decrypt ?
>     > >
>     > >Le jeudi 4 avril 2013, Bernard Tyers a écrit :
>     > >
>     > >> Hi,
>     > >>
>     > >> Is there a reason 1024 bit keys, instead of something higher
is not
>     > used?
>     > >> Do higher bit keys affect host performance, or network latency?
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >> Thanks,
>     > >> Bernard
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >> ----
>     > >> Written on my small electric gadget. Please excuse brevity and
>     > (probable)
>     > >> misspelling.
>     > >>
>     > >> George Torwell <bpmcont...@gmail.com
<mailto:bpmcont...@gmail.com> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >> a second guess would be going after 1024 bit keys.
>     > >> there is also a video on youtube from a recent con about the
>     > feasibility of
>     > >> factoring them, <"fast hacks" or something like that> at the
end, jacob
>     > >> applebaum asks about it and they advise him to use longer keys or
>     > elliptic
>     > >> curves crypto.
>     > >>
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