Good answer. Gotta ask one more. > On 10/21/12 10:14 AM, fakef...@tormail.org wrote: >> You dare to speak about the topic with your name attached. Respect man. >> Blatantly spoken, blatantly answered. >> >> This a nice idea. I got few questions for you. >> >> How could porn banned people send money to porn industry when they cant >> even reach porn websites without circumvention tool? Dont tell me about >> btc. If they are too stupid to know about tor know how can they learn to >> use btc anonymously. > First, the porn content is not only "paid" but also free. > > Regarding the paid content, i do think that normal credit card / paypal > are enough. > > If you, as a user, worry about your financial privacy, you would always > be able to use intermediaries (liberty reserve, western union, okpay, > ccbill and tons of others) that provide you virtual wallet (loaded with > your credit card) and let you pay with a virtual credit card (or even > get a paypal account). > > So there are a lot of ways to avoid getting written on your credit card > statement "PAYPAL*YOUPORN" .
Sure I can do. Its not about me. Can your group of 12 to 18 years old in those countries? > A user maybe informed about that methods, to let him enjoy paid access > with credit-card-statement privacy (not anonymity, just privacy). > >> >> How does the circumvention stuff make a better world? People are to >> coward >> to kick their government ass for their porn rights. Result they can >> simply >> not wank off so easily. Whats the big deal? > The result is indirect. > I do not think anyone will start fighting for "porn rights" . > > But *a lot of people* (especially man/teenagers) will start using > circumvention tools for a reason they care (Masturbate), that is widely > diffused. > > So, the target can be to spread the use of the circumvention tools, > knowledge on how to use it and existance for a massively diffused need > that is not "freedom of speech" but is "access porn to masturbate" . > > Then, as a "apparent side-effect", you have empowered a huge amount of > people to access unfiltered internet. > > If the hypothetical "Tor Porn Bundle" would also provide access to > information sources (political, civil rights, media) otherwise banned in > their countries, we made the deal. > > Trough porn we let hundreds thousands of people access uncensored > information sources. >> >> How can satisfying their wanking needs help them fighting for porn >> rights? >> Let them suffer. Let them fight. Do not ease the suffering. > As explained above i would not target "porn rights", but just the > masturbation needs. > > In that hypothesis the "civil rights" of freedom of speech are acquired > indirectly, the main reason a user would use such a tool would still be > for porn. > > Fabio > > p.s. Circumvention tools like Ultrasurf (Government's backed by BBG) > block porn. Ultrasurf users ask on the internet how to watch porn with > ultrasurf bypassing their blocks. So users using circumvention tool ask > how to see porn that is blocked by the government they live in and by > the circumvention tool provider: > * http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110831001937AAVtFhL > * http://www.pinoyden.com.ph/index.php?topic=106051.0 > > _______________________________________________ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
