Hi Roger, thanks a lot for explaining this once again and also for the link! Admittedly, I kind of like the sense of sarcasm about blacklists that you put into this message :-) Robin
Am 22.08.2012 um 22:36 schrieb Roger Dingledine <a...@mit.edu>: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:37:16PM +0200, Rejo Zenger wrote: >> On 22 aug. 2012, at 16:07, Robin Kipp wrote: >>> I've already been running a Tor relay on that for quite a while, >>> but sadly had to find out that the server's IP subsequently got added >>> to several EMail blacklists - despite the server only being a relay and >>> not an actual exit node! >> >> This is interesting. Did they provide any explanation for this? >> >> Your root server, did they have access to the server as well? How did >> they know you were running a relay, other than looking on your server >> for a Tor process, or looking into your traffic? What problem did they >> try to solve by adding your server on a blacklist? > > Tor relays (regardless of exit policy) are listed in the Tor consensus, > which is public -- it has to be so clients can get the list. > > As for the problem the blacklisters were trying to solve, at best > they were thinking "I want to block Tor, I'll scrape this page I found > and block all the IPs in it." At worst, they were taking the path all > blacklists eventually take, of "I will punish everything associated with > this thing I hate, in hopes that it will die or at least its neighbors > will pressure it." > > See the link at the bottom of > https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse#TypicalAbuses > for a fun read. > > --Roger > > _______________________________________________ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk