On 30/06/12 12:06, Eugen Leitl wrote: >> But are there anonymous payment tools in this days of control? I >> just > > Anonymous prepaid cards, or BitCoin over Tor would come to mind.
Does anyone know a method of obtaining BitCoins anonymously, other than mining them yourself? **bitinstant.com has worked flawlessly for me - I have used it three times now for varied amounts of money. You go to bitinstant.com, set up a cash deposit ---> bitcoin wallet transaction (or Mt. Gox voucher if you so choose). Give them a tormail.org address if you're uncomfortable....they are in the process of setting up UK/Europe options now as well. You can then go to anyplace that supports moneygram billpay, and use *cash*or any form of untraceable payment you used cash to get (i.e. prepaid giftcard). You are untraceable if you use bitinstant. Their system submits your funds to the specified address within 5 minutes. They even will give you a printable PDF with instructions after you submit the transaction request. They charge a 3.99% comission - that's it. They even cover the moneygram fee for you. The tellers I've paid are always surprised by the fact no fee is required :) On Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:25:00 PM UTC-4, Will Steinberg wrote: > > Buy moneypak. Go to silkroadvb5piz3r.onion. Buy btc for painful ~9% > rates. Keep in SR wallet. Send btc to other wallets or buy cash on SR > when you need spending money. > On Jun 30, 2012 1:07 PM, <t...@lists.grepular.com> wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> On 30/06/12 15:34, Rüdiger Koch wrote: >> >> >> Does anyone know a method of obtaining BitCoins anonymously, >> >> other than mining them yourself? >> >> >> > Such a question from a TOR list is a bit surprising, is it not? >> >> I can't identify your logic. >> >> > After all, SR is on TOR. Maybe reading their FAQ helps. Hint: Use a >> > Tumbler. >> >> I've no idea what "SR" is. "Tumbler" sounds like some sort of >> mixing/laundering service. Which would require a *lot* of people to >> use it in order for it to work in any meaningful way. If you know of >> such a service that has maybe 50,000 people or more using it daily, >> please let me know. My guess is that they all have several orders of >> magnitude fewer users. I'm not a fan of pretend anonymity. >> >> - -- >> Mike Cardwell https://grepular.com/ http://cardwellit.com/ >> OpenPGP Key 35BC AF1D 3AA2 1F84 3DC3 B0CF 70A5 F512 0018 461F >> XMPP OTR Key 8924 B06A 7917 AAF3 DBB1 BF1B 295C 3C78 3EF1 46B4 >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> iQGGBAEBCgBwBQJP7yosMBSAAAAAACAAB3ByZWZlcnJlZC1lbWFpbC1lbmNvZGlu >> Z0BwZ3AuY29tcGdwbWltZTgUgAAAAAAVABpwa2EtYWRkcmVzc0BnbnVwZy5vcmdt >> aWtlLmNhcmR3ZWxsQGdyZXB1bGFyLmNvbQAKCRCdJiMBwdHnBDnGCACh6Aza1w8x >> pl+ysxO1DbyY/sKZXu9ECO29IvtvUb4lJujiqyaA47PWX5pUaUDnFyyyLlMFSPUY >> qVtS8pmfTbiEWTEcM49EcH7v7TOn5ULcr33UOxJtIa7AFFiBx5B0vAwUkyRyYUK9 >> YByzuXUjCIlM1R1/FuCXun7aOZmtgYpsFnneOeq037RO3Z2UEtF2VNqve1qOULWI >> x4Dy4kTywxOlEfHIZHTU86pRdzTs1pdu0IqoS+HriwPwtkpTg0krZfSCfHLF03Mz >> e2fxh5CjJi3YvElWksEoATe8UVnGJrOuXLQ75nmSXcfjk97zXsYgnRZ2JHbZRMf1 >> 1mJjf8fU3qIl >> =xWfV >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> tor-talk mailing list >> tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk >> >> -- >> Zero State mailing list: >> http://groups.google.com/group/DoctrineZero >> > -- Zero State mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/DoctrineZero _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
