----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Btfsplk
Sent: 08/10/11 09:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the Dark - mentions Tor.

 On 8/10/2011 5:21 AM, Achter Lieber wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: Zaher F. >> >> Sent: 08/09/11 03:18 PM >> >> To: 
[email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps 
Censors in the Dark - mentions >> Tor. >> >> >> after reading all ur 
conversation... >> >> >> for me i didnt understand a very important thing : >> 
how come a software or tools as Telex and is not anonymity?????? >> because the 
most of blocked sites by the governments are restricted >> also and censored... 
>> >> >> so i dont think a software like Telex can work against these >> 
governments cause no body is ready to loose his freedom.... >> >> ** couldn't 
resist - sorry >> "cause no body is ready to loose his freedom..." >> we're 
already losing our freedoms >> tor is about running and hiding ** >> >> thx >> 
>> > Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:34:34 +0800 >> > From: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] 
<mailto:tor-talk@li
 sts.torproject.org> >> > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] New Tool Keeps Censors in the 
Dark - >> mentions Tor. Achter, this isn't a reply to the topic, but an FYI on 
how your posts show up (on my screen in Tbird). Your reply (that I enlarged 
text & enclosed between astrisks **, just shows up as part of the original 
quoted text. IOW, it's not distinguished from any previous post at all, so 
doesn't appear to be a NEW post or reply. * Don't know how it appears to 
others. * I'm assuming if you wanted to insert comments at specific point, in 
the middle of previous post(s), you hit enter to start new text that isn't part 
of previous quoted replies? Your post / reply is 1st I've seen this on - not 
sure why. Since I don't know which email client you have (or using some 
webmail), can't give specific suggestions. Usually w/ Tbird, if you place 
cursor in quoted text, where want to insert reply (& have it show up distinctly 
from earlier posts), hit enter - it "breaks" the earlier quoted post & 
 makes new text entered very distinct from quoted text. This is just FYI - if 
have any questions, please ask. Maybe I or others can make suggestions. Another 
FYI - a Tbird addon I use to help reading msgs w/ multiple quotes is "QUOTE 
COLORS." https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/quote-colors/ It 
makes it much easier to keep up w/ what text went w/ which author. I'm sure 
other email clients * may * have similar addons. Cheers. 
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 Sorry. I will have to read your reply several times to gather your jist. It's 
not you. It's me.
 I'm not really versed in email, or virtually any thing that has to do with a 
computer as far as
 the enormous amounts of things any one software, including email programs, can 
do.
 My comment was just a spur-of-the-moment type of thing and I meant to put the 
person's
 quote in "quotes". I write a lot and the idea of Tor, anonymity, and the 
various political
 climates that exist (and the comment), just struck a chord with me. I just did 
it, ignoring
 the real fact that I knew it was not really a topic for this group. Please 
forgive me for this
 indiscretion.

 I use Tor and live in a country where using proxies is "technically" against 
the law. I have
 never had much trouble with it but my learning curve is so slow that I fear I 
will never be
 able to become a server in the Tor network. I cannot find anyone in this part 
of the world
 who uses it, knows about it, and who might be willing and able to teach me or 
help my
 learning curve pick up some momentum and speed.

 I believe it is vitally necessary to the world but that using it solely for, 
as I call it, "running
 hiding", only serves a temporary answer to a solvable but difficult-to-solve 
problem.

 Okay that's it. I try to not top-post as I think that is not okay here.
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