Hello,

you will encounter this, Guard node, middle node, or exit node.

If a website operator is going  to blacklist all relays, then you will not be 
able to connect to their site, simple as.

Also, we need any kind of clean node - especially exit nodes, but also any type 
of other good (high uptime and throughput) as well as  clean (i.e. not 
government or surveillance agency controlled nodes).

You can message the websites administrator and tell him to use the Tor Exit 
block-list only - this makes much more sense than blocking traffic from nodes 
that do not allow exiting.

However, good luck convincing any major website (especially banks) to do this.

You should ideally get a dedicated server or encrypted VM in a datacenter that 
is not crowded with Tor nodes already.

I recommended "Wedos.cz" a while ago, zero trouble with Guards, middles and 
bridges, and it's only 6€ a month for a truly unlimited (but 1:3 shared) 100 
MbE port.

They also support ordering through Tor Browser and payment using 
cryptocurrency, I posted about them a while ago when someone claimed they 
stopped supporting Tor hosting or ordering through Tor exit nodes.

I will forward the e-mail to you.

On Tuesday, December 24th, 2024 at 8:07 AM, gniping via tor-relays 
<tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> wrote:

> Hello,
> 

> I'm located in Belgium.
> 

> I keep two small middle relays (no exit, not even guard)…
> 

> https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/89B4597169A9DBB171F0B4629C73C0FD55D767C7
> 

> https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/07E3A0DC6AD4A5F07D1AF942626EBBF6CC0C72C7
> 

> If I browse the web using a common browser using the basic services of
> the ISPs (no torbrowser, no tor network) and at least since may 2023,
> I've observed that some websites (banks, federal services,…) simply
> don't respond when I want to open their webpages.
> 

> If I use another IP from the same locations (using vpn, ssh proxy,
> whatever), those same websites simply respond and works without issue.
> 

> If I switch back to the local ISP IP, those are unreachable, and so on.
> 

> If I contact those ISPs or the banks IT services, for them there are no
> problem.
> 

> For me, it's clear that hosting simple middle relays puts my ISPs IPs to
> some black lists handled by who knows who.
> 

> If hosting basic middle relays is blocking common web services, it will
> be hard / nearly impossible for me to encourage family, friends or
> customers to host a basic middle relays.
> 

> Maybe there is no need for more and more middle relays, I don't know.
> 

> Does someone encounter the same kind of annoyances ?
> 

> regards,
> tierce
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