On 01/17/2017 12:00 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:49:46PM -0700, Mirimir wrote: >> Or you need adequate anonymity, and be willing to lose sunk cost. > > I think trying to run exit relays with anonymity, and with plans to > discard them as needed, is a poor plan long-term. In the struggle for > what the Internet can become, we need to be public and clear about who > we are and why privacy is important for everybody.
I concur. Curiously, there has to be a public face and public venues for anonymity as a service. > (Yes, that looks like a contradiction, but I claim it isn't: privacy > is about giving people choices, and to win this conflict we need some > people who will make the choice to step up and be public and build > relationships.) A local makerspace was already planning on setting up a separate hackerspace as is own legal entity for purposes of compartmentalization when I introduced them to Tor. > This "slash and burn agriculture" approach to running Tor relays, where > you set up an exit relay, and if anybody gets angry you move on to > another ISP, is really appealing since it's simple, but it assumes the > Internet is infinite. If in fact we're destroying land without regard > to sustainability, and we run out of land... The trick, as I understand it, is to preclude the ISP from any legal exposure or overhead whatsoever. > The Internet is smaller and more centralized than we think, and we need > the people who run it to see us as a worthwhile positive and contributing > community. I couldn't agree more.
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