On 13-08-27 05:12 PM, Tor Exit wrote: >>> The Tor devs go to great lengths to try to keep "evil" governments from >>> using Tor against itself. Why not devote some effort toward keeping "evil" >>> traffic off of Tor? > > I agree. Why not block the most obvious abuse? All professional Apache > webservers install a module named 'mod_secure' that will filter out trivial > hacking attempts such as: > > GET /index.php?id=123" OR 1=1 > GET /index.php?file=../../../../../../../etc/passwd > > Why not employ similar techniques on a Tor exit? We can be 100% sure about > the malicious intent. The examples above are not a matter of taste/moral > conviction/opinion, so why not implement a 'mod_security'-like filter in Tor? > >> Define "evil" (or its converse "good"). I'd bet that given any random >> selection of people in a room you'd get a broad spectrum of views. The only >> way you can safely meet /all/ those views is not to take a position at all >> and remain neutral. > > > Yes, this is a gray area. Moreover, there is not a solid technical solution > to reliably "label" or "classify" content. However, suppose that in ten years > technology has advanced and we can reliably classify websites as "gay porn", > "controversial political views", "child porn", "weapons", etc. Then I see no > harm in a tor exit operator to choose an exit policy that matches his own > moral beliefs. Don't forget Tor exits are operated by volunteers that donate > time and money to provide anonymity and provide access to content they think > is important to the world and should be freely accessible at all cost. > > Others may regard this as censorship, but they are free to operate a Tor exit > node themselves to provide access to more grim content. Everybody has their > own reasons to join the torproject. Be it providing access to information for > those living under an oppressing regime, or because they don't want their > health care insurance to know what diseases they search on Google, or because > they have a sexual orientation that is unacceptable in the community they > live in. > > Why is it so bad if a Tor exit operator tries to match the use of their node > with their own moral beliefs?
You can do that if you choose, but consequences may include: - getting listed as a BadExit: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/badRelays - becoming liable for not stopping illegal activity passing through your node, or get charged with illegal wiretapping. See the Snoop question in: https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.en - creating uncertainty about whether exit node operators snoop on traffic or retain data, which puts all of them at risk of being seized during police investigations; - impeding police investigations of the "evil" sites: https://www.torproject.org/about/torusers.html.en#lawenforcement _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
