> On 6 Dec 2023, at 14:16, Holger Knublauch <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 6 Dec 2023, at 3:07 pm, Steve Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> One thing I really miss in EDG Studio is the ability to create (and >> rearrange) a Graph View that shows instances in my data files with >> occasional displays of rdf:types. I use such generated diagrams extensively >> whenever presenting my work. Happy to show some examples if you like. > > Yes please examples. Feel free to send them to me directly if you prefer. We > would want to understand where EDG Diagram needs to be improved.
EDG Diagrams are a bit like UML diagrams. Classes are different from properties are different from instances - better for classes than for instances. Use case is documentating an ontology. Graph diagrams are just that … nothing more than nodes and edges whatever they happen to be. Better for instances than for classes. I used the graph feature where you could “fix” nodes and generate SPARQL from it … that was great, for example when writing WHERE clauses in a SPARQL CONSTRUCT that was part of an ETL conversion/data migration. To do that kind of thing now now in Studio I copy and paste TTL from the Source Code panel into the SPARQL panel to test (but then have to turn URIs into variables). Cheers, David > > Holger > > >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 8:12 AM Holger Knublauch <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 6 Dec 2023, at 1:55 pm, Matt Goldberg <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'd be really disappointed if that were true. Composer is (in my opinion) >>>> by far the best general purpose RDF power user tool out there. EDG is >>>> great, but Composer is much better for quickly opening up files, >>>> inspecting them, and making edits at a low level. It's also much easier to >>>> deal with files in Git with Composer than with Studio. >>> >>> Thanks for your feedback. Leaving aside TBC for now, what are the obstacles >>> to using Studio with Git right now? When you save files from Studio, they >>> are also written with the sorted TTL writer. In fact I am entirely using >>> Studio for all edits that I make to our own ontologies such as dash. >>> >>> For making edits at low level, note that the Source Code panel of Studio >>> has a button to see and edit the whole graph at once. What else is TBC >>> doing better? >>> >>> Holger >>> >>> >>>> I really wouldn't want to rely on Studio or have to go back to using >>>> Protege for tasks like that. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 5:56:44 AM UTC-5 Bohms, H.M. (Michel) >>>> wrote: >>>>> In the same line: transition options incl. pricing would be very welcome, >>>>> >>>>> michel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] <> <[email protected] <>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Jan Campschroer >>>>> Sent: woensdag 6 december 2023 11:46 >>>>> To: TopBraid Suite Users <[email protected] <>> >>>>> Subject: [topbraid-users] Composer EOL? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I heard the whisper that TB Composer is end of life? 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