On 2022-01-21 10:54 am, [email protected] wrote:
Thanks, Holger. My need in this case isn't to query inferred data using SPARQL or GraphQL, but rather to reuse the inferred data as an input for another EDG property shape with another sh:values rule in it. I think I'm hearing that that's not possible.

That scenario IS possible. You just need to use a path node expression, see

https://w3c.github.io/shacl/shacl-af/#node-expressions-path

So if ex:prop1 is inferred then you can reference it in the sh:values rule of another property using [ sh:path ex:prop1 ] and it will compute that inference on the fly. This assumes that the receiving property using a sh:values rule using SHACL node expressions, not SPARQL.

Holger



Can you point me to where I can read more about the materialization option and decide whether there's a way to make that work for this use case? Thanks.

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 4:03:32 PM UTC-8 Holger Knublauch wrote:


    On 2022-01-19 9:44 am, [email protected] wrote:
    I have defined a property shape and am successfully inferring its
    objects using a sh:values rule.

    Can you remind me whether it is possible to use this property and
    its inferred data in the sh:values rule for a different property
    shape? If so, is there a special way that it needs to be done --
    like, does the data I inferred in the first property shape need
    to be materialized in some way before I can make use of it?  --

    In general, the RDF graphs that TopBraid operates on do not
    automatically "see" the extra inferred triples, so they are not
    computed as RDF triples on the fly. However, our higher level
    query languages GraphQL and JavaScript/ADS do see them whenever
    they are requested. The user interface goes through GraphQL and
    will therefore display these values as if they were materialized.

    Now, within SHACL itself it depends on what you want to do. If you
    have SHACL-AF inference rules including other sh:values rules you
    can safely use path expressions
    https://w3c.github.io/shacl/shacl-af/#node-expressions-path and
    the values will be computed on the fly. For SHACL constraints
    there is no such mechanism unless you are expressing the
    constraints in SPARQL. There you can use the magic property

        (?focusNode ?predicate) tosh:values ?result

    to query the inferred values.

    The other option, of course, is to materialize the inferences,
    e.g. using the Inferences panel or the Transform tab.

    Does this help?

    Holger


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