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Art Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 25, 2022, at 12:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Topband mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Topband digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Working 'long' distances on 160m (Steve Ireland) > 2. Re: Working 'long' distances on 160m: EU-NA (H. Rester) > 3. Working 'long' distances on 160m (Roger Kennedy) > 4. Re: Working 'long' distances on 160m (Grant Saviers) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:12:59 +0800 > From: Steve Ireland <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > G?day all > > Some food for thought. > > Like Roger G3YRO and others who were teenage UK radio amateurs in the > 1960s/1970s I grew up radio-wise on 160m. In those days, the holy grail was > to work across the Atlantic from UK/Europe. > > Nowadays, living in Western Australia, it seems quite funny to think that > working from Europe to into the east coast of North America is something that > is still considered as real DX working on topband, as the distance is not > relatively long and there is no shortage of stations (in theory!) at either > end. > > Back in the late 1960s/early 1970s, UK stations (and others in Europe) could > only legally use 10W DC input, so working this distance was really difficult > and thus ?serious DX?. However, as the 1970s progressed, there were TL-922 > linear amplifiers in use at various G-DXers (but of course, ahem, never on > 160m). > > Some years after this, 400W output became both legal and commonplace below > 1832KHz in the UK. > > Anyhow, my point is that the distance from Europe/the UK to east coast USA is > relatively short ? from the UK?s Newcastle Upon Tyne (where Roger lives) to > New York is about 3,330 miles (about 5,360 km) as the crow flies. > > This is a very similar distance from Perth, Western Australia to Auckland, > New Zealand ? but no serious Southern Hemisphere topband DXer would consider > a contact between VK6 and ZL1 as a DX contact. ? > > On the other hand, Perth to Newcastle Upon Tyne is 9,056 miles (14,574 km) > while New York to Perth is 11,613 miles (18,690km). That to me is DX. But > Australia (Perth in particular) is a long way away from anywhere else. > > All a question of perspective, history and where you live I guess. ? > > Vy 73 > > Steve, VK6VZ/G3ZZD/VY2LF > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 12:07:31 +0200 > From: "H. Rester" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m: EU-NA > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > From the viewpoint of old Europe it?s probably "just" the atlantic > ocean, what has to be passed.? Thinking, that there is basically nothing > in between the two continents than waves, storms and a view ships and > the signal will be then received at another part of the world, which we > only knew for some hundred years (and since then with a cultural > conection). I like working UA9 or UA0, JA from DL as well, but the skip > over the atlantic ocean "feels" somehow different.? Sounds kind of > psychologically. > > 73, Harry DH1NBE > > >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 13:22:24 +0100 > From: "Roger Kennedy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m > Message-ID: <76DAFD453C63474D83C4B3375D7FF8A9@Packard> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > I get what you're saying Steve . . . > > But to me, anything over 2,000 miles I consider DX on 160m . . . considering > most stations on Top Band struggle to work stations 1,000 miles away. > > So I still consider it an achievement to work 'Across the Pond' on Top Band, > which is why it still gives me a buzz! > > But I get what you're saying . . . where you are in Australia, a similar > distance is still in the same country . . . as it is for most Americans. > Whereas working across to a different continent seems more of an > achievement, psychologically at least. > > What I HAVE noticed over the many decades I've been DX-ing on 160m, is that > if you can work Across the Pond from England well on Top Band, you can > pretty much guarantee to work anywhere in the world. (that's pretty much > been my experience, anyway) > > And as you know - in my case, that has always been with a Dipole antenna! > > When would be a good time to work you Steve? > > Roger G3YRO > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 07:25:11 -0700 > From: Grant Saviers <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Topband: Working 'long' distances on 160m > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > My perspective as originally a "1" in Boston and now residing near > Seattle, is the nickname "suffering sevens" is well applied to my > friends here in the Pacific Northwest. > > Simply, for the PNW, distance isn't that meaningful - it's path that > matters (and latitude). What was easy in Boston at 42N is very hard in > Seattle at 48N re EU on both 80 and 160. The path is mostly over land > or ice and usually thru or around the edge of the aurora zone. Arrival > angles for 80 peak at less than 10*. OTOH, JA's- yawn. Almost exactly > the same 4790 miles either way, Seattle to Tokyo or London. > > So when you hear a "suffering seven" in EU, reach out. We also get a > chuckle when "the band is open" messages get posted from EU and what we > hear is only noise. > > I did get TB DXCC, all from PNW since 2018, so am not complaining. Just > want some more ;) . > > Grant KZ1W > >> On 9/25/2022 00:12, Steve Ireland wrote: >> G?day all >> >> Some food for thought. >> >> Like Roger G3YRO and others who were teenage UK radio amateurs in the >> 1960s/1970s I grew up radio-wise on 160m. In those days, the holy grail was >> to work across the Atlantic from UK/Europe. >> >> Nowadays, living in Western Australia, it seems quite funny to think that >> working from Europe to into the east coast of North America is something >> that is still considered as real DX working on topband, as the distance is >> not relatively long and there is no shortage of stations (in theory!) at >> either end. >> >> Back in the late 1960s/early 1970s, UK stations (and others in Europe) could >> only legally use 10W DC input, so working this distance was really difficult >> and thus ?serious DX?. However, as the 1970s progressed, there were TL-922 >> linear amplifiers in use at various G-DXers (but of course, ahem, never on >> 160m). >> >> Some years after this, 400W output became both legal and commonplace below >> 1832KHz in the UK. >> >> Anyhow, my point is that the distance from Europe/the UK to east coast USA >> is relatively short ? from the UK?s Newcastle Upon Tyne (where Roger lives) >> to New York is about 3,330 miles (about 5,360 km) as the crow flies. >> >> This is a very similar distance from Perth, Western Australia to Auckland, >> New Zealand ? but no serious Southern Hemisphere topband DXer would consider >> a contact between VK6 and ZL1 as a DX contact. ? >> >> On the other hand, Perth to Newcastle Upon Tyne is 9,056 miles (14,574 km) >> while New York to Perth is 11,613 miles (18,690km). That to me is DX. But >> Australia (Perth in particular) is a long way away from anywhere else. >> >> All a question of perspective, history and where you live I guess. ? >> >> Vy 73 >> >> Steve, VK6VZ/G3ZZD/VY2LF >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Topband mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Topband Digest, Vol 237, Issue 10 > **************************************** _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
