I think if everybody reads the bottom header, its that simple. I'm tired of my email box being filled up with unnecessary discussions about subscribing and unsubscribe. This is a trivial matter, you unsubscribe from the email you subscribed from. How hard is that to understand. One person stated earlier " There is no cure for laziness" and I would have to agree. The reason, you can't unsubscribe is because you're using a different email address than what you subscribe with. -----Original Message----- From: Kwan, Kenneth Y [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ***** URGENT: UNSUBSCRIBING FROM THE TOMCAT-USER LIST ***** May I suggest that if an unsubscribing mail is received with a different address, send the instructions on how to unsubscribe to the sender. I think this may help. Kenneth -----Original Message----- From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 2:18 AM To: Tomcat User Mailing List Subject: ***** URGENT: UNSUBSCRIBING FROM THE TOMCAT-USER LIST ***** Obviously a lot of people are having trouble unsubscribing from this list. Most likely these people have tried the simple/direct way of unsubscribing -- sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- without success. That's because that way only works if you send the unsubscribe request from the address you are subscribed from. But many people receive/send their email from a different address than the one they originally subscribed from. Some people (including me and others) have posted instructions on how to unsubscribe when faced with this situation. But it's not clear that the right people are seeing these messages (I guess you can't blame them too much, because they're probably not reading the messages too closely, because the whole point is they want to get off this list). But I'm going to make another attempt to post these instructions in the hope that it will help someone. I'll try to make the subject line such that even those people that are deleting everything from the list will stop and notice it (for the people that want to stay on the list, sorry about that :-). First of all, you need to find out what address tomcat-user thinks you're subscribed from. To do that, look at the headers of a message from the list, and you'll see something like: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Return-Path header line includes the address tomcat-user thinks you're subscribed from -- with the "@" changed to a "=" to avoid having two "@"'s in the Return-Path. In this example, that's joe=domain.com, which translates to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Once you know that address, you can unsubscribe by sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voila! So, if you are having trouble unsubscribing, please give this a try. Milt Epstein Research Programmer Software/Systems Development Group Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) [EMAIL PROTECTED]