As a log4j user I'd prefer a separate jar for Juli (so that I can remove her easily :). I'm pretty agnostic as to including it in the default tomcat-5.5.x.tar.gz or as tomcat-logging.tar.gz. In the second case, it should be enough to have tomcat-juli.jar. It's easy enough to have catalina.sh/bat look to see if tomcat-juli.jar is in bin and add the -Dj.u.l.m= to the JAVA_OPTS.
I haven't had time to look at it in detail, but from what I have looked at Juli looks nice.
Regardless of how it is packaged, you can use log4j simply by putting it there.
The system property trick is much harder with the exe. You're not using it though, so it's clearly a SEP ;)
I'll provide a default configuration in "build", so that CVS users can try it.
Rémy
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