Remy,
 
I really have to bite my lip sometimes with your blunt replies.
 
The fact of the matter is that I am not stupid, nor do I have a vivid 
imagination. You may be a developer of Tomcat but that does not necessarily 
equate to you being right all the time about bugs, and I have seen several 
times where you are wrong, several of which have been things I have reported 
and one of which I fixed. Give me some credit please.
 
Now, the fact of the matter is, we have a situation where Tomcat *is* without a 
doubt reloading our web application on *all* developers' personal Tomcat 5.5.5 
instances. We are all working on different subsystems across the code base too 
and same behaviour. A very junior developer said to me this morning, "this new 
Tomcat is a little temperamental isn't it?". Now this guy does not know much 
about how Tomcat works, but he is very aware of what a Tomcat looks like when 
reloading a web application, e.g a request goes in and we get broken response 
HTML coming back, and of course definate proof in the logs stating quite 
explicitly that the web application is being reloaded. My guess at JDT compiler 
was simply based on the fact that it is used for JSP compilation and is new. An 
assertion or guess that is not "vivid" imo.
 
So I appreciate you cannot reproduce it with maybe servlet-examples OK. But the 
issue *is not* my "vivid imagination". So, I wonder how I can provide something 
that will make you believe it. I will try and get something together for you 
asap.
 
Cheers, Allistair

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Tue 14/12/2004 17:07 
        To: Tomcat Developers List 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re: JSP changes cause web app reload in 5.5?
        
        

        Allistair Crossley wrote:
        
        >Myself and my developers have noticed that with our new 5.5 
development Tomcats changes to JSPs now cause Tomcat to reload our web 
applications.
        > 
        >
        I cannot reproduce this.
        
        >Is this expected behaviour? Perhaps the new JDT compiler? Can it be 
stopped without using reloadable="false"? We don't use anti JAR locking either.
        > 
        >
        You have a vivid imagination. What else ?
        
        RÃmy
        
        
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