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If we are not recignised already as a valuable part of ASF, why all the fuzz?

Because we don't have the said recognition.



???



I'm thinking to leave the ASF at all...

Wait please...


What was the altruistic community become the playground for the major
companies like Sun, Covalent, IBM, JBoss, etc...
I'm not so sure that I wish to participate in the community where some
shareholder board has a significant influence here.

Hum, it remind me 'sad and black ideas' I've got some years ago. But recall that you can make thing evolve when you're inside.

If the Tomcat has not been recognized already as a valuable ASF project,
then why all the effort?
Who do we need to convince? What are the measures?

Well Tomcat is recognized since its the Reference Implementation of the latest 3 servlets APIs.

I know that I could sound a little bit idealistic, but do we really need the
marketing? What would be the purpose of such marketing?

Not commercial marketing, a ASF / OSS marketing operation.


The best products do not need the marketing (take the bible for example).
If someone thinks that my work needs the market evaluation, I'm charging
$200 per hour.

Of course.


Who the fuck is the ASF board at all? How did it get elected? Not by the
committers that's for sure.

Board is elected by Members, and Members by Commiters isn't it ?




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