Kyle, I agree with you on this.
I'd like to draw a parallel with the classloader and how it treats the classes in the common area and classes in a webapp. (please correct me if I'm wrong) If I put a class (database driver etc) in the common/lib area tomcat can use it *and* my web app can. Direct parallel : I can define a resource in globalresources and use tomcat can use it for the global realm and my web app can use it for its context based realm. If I put a class in my webapps lib area My webapp can use it but tomcat cannot see it. If I define a resource at the context level why can't my web app use it for a realm ? I seems a little inconsistent to me. But if I'm missing the point please please tell me why (The only thing I can think of is if you are making a global realm the code doing the lookup will need to restrict its search to just the global resources rather than using the initial context as well. but ... ?? ) Kind regards David Cassidy Kyle VanderBeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lev.com> cc: Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DataSourceRealm and Context defined JNDI Resource] 08/01/2004 20:52 Please respond to "Tomcat Developers List" I'm re-forwarding this message to the list for (hopefully) discussion. I sent this the first time as 5.0 was going final, so people where very busy. I get very regular personal questions about this topic as people cull the list archives and find me. Also, I think I've seen two more bugs on the same issue opened and closed (INVALID/WONTFIX) recently. People (myself included) *really* don't understand why a Context-local JNDI Datasource isn't reasonable. ----- Forwarded message from Kyle VanderBeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- Remy: I'm looking at two bugs (one of which I opened): http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16316 http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24545 And it seems to have confused several people that DataSourceRealm can't use a JNDI Resource defined in a Context but must instead use a global resource. The matters that confuse are that 1) an administrator can define a Resource at the Context level and 2) a Realm is defined at a Context level. It seems to follow from these observations that a Realm should be able to use a JNDI Resource defined at the same level. This is possible with the small patch I submitted on bug 24545 (from my work address). It seems to work fine (contrary to your 2003-6-12 remark on bug 16316). In addition, this seems like a very useful functionality. Several people have brought up the security concern of placing their user database in a global JNDI resource. I also brought up the idea of turnkey applications that could be deployed using a DataSourceRealm without having to ask the client to make modifications to their server.xml: drop the context fragment and the .war in the right place and you're done. I've gotten emails about this expected functionality (related to my bug) and really don't have anything to tell people. Remy, I'd like to understand why you've so quickly closed these bugs WONTFIX. I don't see the issue. If there is a design problem with this, I'd like to know what it is. I was hoping for a dialogue from you and the other developers. In the end, maybe this is just an enhancement request. Regardless, it's probably good to get this (and hopefully a series of well-formed responses) in the archive. Thanks. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some people have a way with words, while others... erm... thingy. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]