Create a separate minimal JSR 154 only distribution of Tomcat 4.x:

+1 [ ]
0 [ ]
-1 [x]

[I will quickly change to a +1 if the minimal change I suggest is made. Others prob. will as well]

Explanation:

Beginners want ease of use over minimality because they want to get started. They can't choose between a dist. with Jasper + Manager vs. one without Jasper and Manager because they don't know what Jasper is ( though they prob. do know what JSP is ) and they don't know what the manager does.

Advanced users want security, because they are admins and want to deploy rather than just play. Advanced users are more willing and able to go through extra steps in order to secure software. They are more likely to have the security paranoia (rightly) often conveyed in this thread.

My *ideal* is that a script comes with the full distribution that moves all Jasper JARS, SSI stuff, Management, etc. to a temporary directory under the tomcat root. It can also replace ( if no mods have been made ) the web.xml file appropriately.

Assuming everyone thinks this idea sucks for some reason or another, then I would go +1 as long as it is agreed that the minimal distribution is CLEARLY marked something along the lines that it is for experts only, and does not support JSP pages. (yes, I know it runs compiled jsp pages). Cause newbies often think to themselves "minimal sounds good, cause it's less crap I'll have to understand", not realizing that they actually want/need the crap.

-Dan


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