On 11/12/2002 at 4:03 PM Costin Manolache wrote: >Fredrik Westermarck wrote: > >> The problem that I and others have experienced is that proposals and/or >> patches, by non-committers, don't get discussed or voted about. > >You have to keep pushing. If you send patches and proposals you can >become a committer - and then you'll start ignoring patches and proposals
>:-) I know you mean that in jest, but I have two big problems with what you said: 1. Simply sending patches and proposals is enough to become a committer? On the other apache projects on which I've worked, several months of consistent quality patches and involvement on the lists is necessary to achieve committer status. 2. Committers ignore patches and proposals from non-committers - though said with smilies, does seem to be the status quo, from my personal experience and that of others. Do you not see this as a problem? Not every guy who finds (and patches!) a bug in tomcat has the time or interest to become a committer (nor should they), and I don't think you should require that before their patches have a chance to get in. I know that no one ever has enough time to do everything, and staying on top of patch submissions can be a chore, yes. With enough committers, and tomcat certainly seems to have enough, you can manage - make it a rotating chore to scan the developers list, tell patchers that they should contact the module authors directly, use bugzilla to manage the patch queue, etc., etc., etc. >I'm sorry - but everyone is very short on time. If you have a real interest >in tomcat the best solution is to send patches, insist on getting them >accepted and become a committer. I think many people here will tell you >it's not that hard. Therein lies the rub. Not every joe that comes up with a patch for tomcat should get committer access, in my eyes. Nor should the tomcat developers ignore contributed patches. There's got to be a better way. - donald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org>
