Thanks for the answer, and sorry for posting to dev list, I did it so 
because nobody answered at user list where I posted firstly.

Is it possible to push tomcat to fallback logging to System.out manualy (in 
some config file) , because he doesn't do so automatically ?

And I'll try with JDK 1.31 (I think that IBM has released JDK1.3.1) , if 
this doesnt work I'll switch to Sun JDK1.3.1.

At 11:13 26. 09. 02 +0200, you wrote:
>Domagoj Jugovic wrote:
>>Tomcat 4.0.3 works fine in the same enviroment (win98 + IBM JDK1.3).
>>But Tomcat 4.1.10 and Tomcat 4.1.12 are complaining about missing 
>>java.util.logging.* and I downloaded the version for jdk1.2+ which 
>>doesn't have logging, why does version for jdk1.2 require java.util.logging ?
>>But I find out how to put exactly the same logging possibilities like in 
>>jdk 1.4 to jdk 1.3 (see : http://javalogging.sourceforge.net/  it's an 
>>JSR 47 implementation).  So java.util.logging.* is now ok.
>>But now the comand line stack trace after typing bin/startup is :
>
>If I run TC 4.1.12 with JDK 1.3.1 on Windows, I do not get any problems. 
>commons-logging falls back to using sys.out instead of java.logging, and 
>everything is fine.
>
>Please do not post that on tomcat-dev, but on tomcat-user, or the commons 
>mailing list, since it looks like an "issue" with commons-logging.
>
>Remy
>
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