Bojan Smojver wrote:

> All right then, let's talk about JSP's. If I host my clients' JSP's on my
> server and a web designer puts this in (BTW, he wasn't forced, he simply
> decided he wanted to do it):

And your proposed solution is ... ? 

Do you have a patch to solve this problem ? If so, send the code. IF
not - please let me know what's your point here ? Do you think we're stupid
and never heard about denial of service ? 

BTW, velocity _is_ a programming language - at least by the book definition, 
AFAIK it is turing complete. Some things are more difficult to do, but
not impossible - you can see it as a benefit, I see it as a major lack
of flexibility. 

So if you want to discuss solutions for this problem - I'm sure it'll
help other templating and programming tools as well, including velocity
( which BTW can be a nice tool - and the lack of flexibility can be
good in some cases ).  

I don't know what to do about your web designer - who doesn't know 
programming but decides to write some DOS code in his page. But I know
that the best web applications I've used so far ( including some in
php or perl ) were written by people who know a lot of programming. 
You need software engineers, useability engineers - not web designers
who are clueless on programming ( and can't be trusted to not write
DOS just for fun ).

Costin



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