On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Bill Barker wrote: > At least in 3.3 land, I'm leaning to Remy's opinion. It's going to be > painful. However, I'm +1 (i.e. I'll help on the 3.3 stuff) . As Remy > points out, TINA.
Ok, what does 'TINA' mean :-) ??? I see your point, I'll play a bit more with the class loaders ( I'm using log4j in common ). In JDK1.4 we don't have the option to move the logging in the container loader :-), and at least log4j can be upgraded in common at any time, not only when you upgrade the VM. > 3.3.1 as recommended on the Coyote download page (tomcat-util.jar is in > common, and commons-logging.jar is in container). Now, commons-logging is > pretty stable, so I don't have a problem with (like in 3.3.2-dev) putting it > in common. However, I really don't want to put log4j.jar in common since > then it would over-ride the one in WEB-INF/lib. This is almost as bad as > putting JAXP in common. I'll try to get it in container. It should work, except the messages that are displayed before the logger is set up ( where the 'default' of commons-logging will be used ). What I'm worried about is setting up the per/context loggers and where they'll write. I assume webapps using log4j will provide their own configuration, but how do we mix this with the global settings ? And how do we deal with the sandbox. Fortunately ( or not ) JDK1.4 logger doesn't seem to care about security, so why should we worry ... Ok, it'll be more painfull than I thought - but still we should do it, it's a mess. > My first thought was to move o.a.t.u.log back to jakarta-tomcat, and convert > the rest of o.a.t.u.** to commons-logging. But this still has the same > problems..... > Now that recycling is working again, I'm very fond of qlog. I'd like to be > able to keep it as an option (as a plugin to commons-logging). Long term I think o.a.t.u.log should be deprecated. I agree qlog is a nice ( and quite efficient ) piece, so maybe it can be turned into a common-logging logger ( and so available to other apps ). The last thing we need is yet-another logging API ( o.a.t.u.log is probably older than most others, but that doesn't matter ). Costin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
