Remy Maucherat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree with Pier here. I think we should only try to implement daemon
> fnctionality using the appropriate wrapper. Implmenting it with standard
> Tomcat using scripts is a nasty hack.
> Somehow, Patrick doesn't seem to like my BootstrapService (which works
> perfectly well; it's even been in use for a long time through the NT service
> which ships with the Windows installer) :-(

I like your approach on it (well AlexandriaSC's approach)... That's when we
got crummed on on JCP-096, they didn't want to "keep it simple"...

> Question: How is JSR 96 doing ? Did you leave the EG because the lead is
> impossible to work with ? What I mean is: is there still hope that the final
> spec is decent ?

No. We fought throughout the whole EG to have a decent spec, and the Spec
Lead completely ignored all our comments (not only Apache's but of ALL
experts). He came out with a spec which sucks, as it leaves the handling of
the JVM process lifecycle into an unspecified behavior.

We didn't agree on putting it on to the next stage of the JCP (as expert
group), but he did it anyway. Now what the ASF is going to do is to vote -1
on its publication in "community review", and hopefully block it there since
we have the support of most of the JSR-096 expert group (apart from the spec
lead and the two folks working in his company on the EG)...

JSR-906 will hopefully never come to a final javax.... API (or at least
that's what the expert group is trying to do).

    Pier


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