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> On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Christopher Cain wrote:
>
> > > I don't know what 'long enough' means, my impression is that we had
> a
> > > far too long release cycle for 3.3 already.
> >
> > Don't worry Costin, he doesn't really know what it means either :)
>
> Well, giving the bug reports he filled so far - he seems to know very
> well
> what we're talking about, so even if he's not a commiter, his -1
> matters
> more than Jon's ( at least for me ).
You know, Gaspar makes a very good point when he says that it is sometimes
necessary to look past the somewhat ... less-than-diplomatic =) ...
presentation, and find the heart of a Jon argument, because it almost always
contains valuable insight and sound advice. Perhaps the -1 was a little heavy-
handed, but concerns about the state of bugzilla when a product ships is a
reasonable point of view that at least deserves your attention. To dismiss what
he says because it is not packaged with a shiny bow, or because you two do not
get along, is to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
> Costin
>
> ( BTW, thanks again William for helping with the test of tomcat and
> for
> the bug reports )
And I, too, think that William deserves a great deal of thanks for the time and
energy he invests in testing Tomcat and filling out bug reports. That's just as
vital to the success of the project as anything you and I do, in my opinion.
Perhaps I did come down a little hard, but I take two things very seriously:
Tomcat's reputation as a world-class engine, and the reputation of my fellow
developers and the people I call friends. By implying that 3.3 was being
released prematurely for political reasons, Mr. Barker was treading dangerously
close to insulting both. Since he decided not to offer any further
clarification or explanation on what he meant by his statements, I don't know
if it was an intentional accusation, an unfortunate choice of words, or what.
But apparently I am the only one who took offense, so in the spirit of all of
this unprecidented cooperation and mutual respect, I'll shut up now. Hell, 3.3
isn't even my primary development tree (although I do try and port my patches
there on occasion :-), and he's being defended by none other than the father of
3.3 himself, so far be it from me to intrude on whatever rather curious social
dynamics you guys have at work over there. Larry is just one of the nicest guys
you'll ever meet, and he really took me under his wing when I first got here,
so perhaps I got a little rabid in defending him ... What?!? _Me_ engage in
verbal tounge-lashings in the course of defending someone?!? Never heard of
such a thing ;-)
Anyway, we now return you to your regularly-scheduled 3.3/4.0, Pier/Henri,
York/Lancaster reconciliation. :)
- Christopher
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