Even less GPL (commercial) but still for free, not so clumsy and with a
better GUI and Debugger... Borland's JBuilder 4 Foundation.
=:o)
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kaneda K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Jasper performance
>
>
> I agree with you, So I'll suggest you Forte IE, which has a great
> debugger.
> that allow you to trace exception form the stack to the class,
> then to the
> original source code.
>
> It also allow break point, which is the least.
>
> The only regrets about this tools :
> - need a big computer (600mz and more then 256 Mo, it's great with 512)
> - not GPL
>
> At 14:17 17/05/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>
> > >From my view, the problem with JSP->Java->Class isn't performance its
> >debugging. JSP is hard to work with when you make a mistake,
> very often the
> >error message is less than helpful. A very large step in
> improving this is
> >by making the line number given by the stack trace match the
> line numbers of
> >the JSP page. This currently is not the case because of the intermediate
> >step of a java file. It would be beneficial to compile JSP
> straight to Java,
> >complete with debugging information included in the class file.
> >
> >- Chris.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Carlos Gaston Alvarez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 17 May 2001 12:51
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Jasper performance
> > >
> > >
> > > I dont know if I really understood. You (some) are
> > > thinking to compile a
> > > jsp using xslt. I didnt know that that was possible. I mean,
> > > can a jsp be
> > > loaded as a dom object? I think that it cannot because a nice
> > > guy can write
> > > some code like <% out.writeln("</html>"); %> and that is, it
> > > is not more xml
> > > compliant. (please tellme if I am wrong).
> > > If the problem is the compilation time I can hardly
> > > believe that we can
> > > do something faster that a java compiler. Not because we dont have the
> > > skill, but because there are groups working in this kind of
> > > implementations.
> > > We should be blindly proud to think out compiler would be faster than
> > > theirs. Also, I consider that a waste of time.
> > > Let me do some guessing. I know, I should be reading the
> > > code, but I
> > > have been realy overloaded for the last months. Lets see if I have
> > > understood the problem.
> > > Saving a file for compilation is slow. So we need a
> > > faster solution.
> > > But, why is it slow?
> > > It sounds like we are saving the .java in file and then invoking a
> > > javacc process. The new process needs loads the compiler
> > > classes, compiles
> > > them (?) and then compiles our .java source.
> > > If we could have the compiler just loaded on our own
> > > memory space, we
> > > could invoke it saving the loading compiling (?) time. We
> > > could also send
> > > the .java 'file' in memory and expect the .class 'file' also
> > > in memory.
> > > Yes, may be we need some modifications in the compiler,
> > > but as part of
> > > the apache project we are at a good position for asking it an
> > > having a good
> > > answer.
> > >
> > > Chau,
> > >
> > > Gaston
> > >
> > > ps: sorry for doing so much guessing but next month I will
> > > have much more
> > > time.
> > > ps
> > >
> >
> >
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