On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Dan Milstein wrote:

> I have to say that I am a bit uncomfortable with this.  The guidelines on
> the website say (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html):
> 
> "Developers who give frequent and valuable contributions to a subproject of
> the Project can have their status promoted to that of a "Committer" for that
> subproject."

I happened to be in the same situation with Amy - my account was created
without "frequent or valuable" contribution from my part. 

It is very hard to get involved in such a project, with all the flames,
so many smart people around who will read your mails in all possible ways, 
all kind of conflicting requirements. Not to mention the peer review.

I could say a lot about this - but the short answer is that I'll vote 

+1 

and I would love to see more people working for other companies in jobs
involving tomcat and willing to become commiters,  and this vote will make
it easier for them to do so.

Costin


> 
> It sounds like Amy has contributed good work which people at Sun have seen,
> but, as a developer who only communicates via the list, I haven't seen
> anything she's done (I haven't missed any things she's submitted, have I?  I
> have this vague memory of ezmlm complaining about not being able reach me). 
> I'm also not clear if her documentation and test cases are part of the TC
> 4.x code base or part of the JSP spec (since she's working on the
> "JSP/Servlet Team")
> 
> I don't want this to turn into a Sun-bashing thread -- I think it is
> *fantastic* that Sun is giving excellent developers a chance to work
> full-time on an open source Tomcat.  And I would love to have more people
> who can contribute to the project.
> 
> But I think those guidelines are important -- in terms of our social
> organization, I think it is reasonable to require a new developer to submit
> patches and ideas to the list at large, so that, when they are proposed as a
> committer, everyone can feel that they're voting for a known quantity.
> 
> Furthermore, since I've been involved, that process has actually occurred
> very quickly (which I think is great).  Once someone has contributed a few
> solid patches, everyone is ready to give them commit access.
> 
> If I'm missing part of the story, I'd be happy to change my mind, but I
> guess I'm -1 until I can better understand what Amy's "frequent and valuable
> contributions" have been.
> 
> -Dan
> 
> "Craig R. McClanahan" wrote:
> > 
> > Amy has recently joined the JSP/Servlet team at Sun, and has contributed
> > several documentation updates and new tests for the test harness.  She
> > would like to work on bug fixes, as well as participate in the development
> > of better admin tools, primarily on the Tomcat 4.0 code base.
> > 
> > Votes please?
> > 
> > Craig McClanahan
> > 
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