on 1/30/01 11:10 AM, "Larry Isaacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Jon,
> 
> I changed the release plan to not promise that all bugs will be
> fixed as a requirement for release, since that isn't practical.
> Some of the open issues were open prior to the Tomcat 3.2 release.
> IMHO, if they weren't show stoppers for Tomcat 3.2, they shouldn't
> automatically be upgraded to show stoppers for Tomcat 3.3.
> 
> Is my assumption that the commitment to do maintenance will
> apply in the release vote.  This is only the vote on the plan,
> and a +1 here is only committing to help with the plan.
> 
> Deciding whether Tomcat 3.3 has outstanding bugs that should
> prevent its release, IMHO, should also occur in the release
> vote.  It would be very appropriate to offer a specific unfixed
> bug, or bugs, as a reason for a -1.  Then those specific bugs
> could be addressed.
> 
> It is the release vote that is going to be the key one for Tomcat 3.3,
> not this vote for the plan.  If there are those who are, by their +1's
> to the plan, willing to try to bring Tomcat 3.3 to a point where a
> release vote can happen, then I think they should be able to try.
> I don't think we should have to establish the outcome of the release
> vote when trying to vote for the plan.
> 
> Sound acceptable?
> 
> Cheers,
> Larry

Larry, thanks for the excellent response. I think that I hear what you are
saying. However, I still feel that it should be a goal of the release plan
to attempt to specify which bugs will be closed before a release vote is
made. That will solidify the ability to actually vote a -1 on the release if
a particular bug is not fixed. In other words, I understand that you may not
want to fix bugs that were open before 3.2 was released and were not closed
after the release.

How about this suggestion:

Change the release plan to state:

"All bugs that have been opened after the Tomcat 3.2.1 release will be
closed before a 3.3 release is made."

That would make me feel a lot more comfortable and would also set a nice
precedent for not doing any more releases while we have bugs in an Open
state. Note that you can still do a release with unresolved bugs...but
someone should actually mark them as unresolved before a release. :-)

thanks,

-jon


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