> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 02:58
>
> on 1/17/01 5:50 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nope. No proposal for that has been made yet.
I am talking about names and you are throwing bureaucracy at me.
> How do you know that what is in the cvs HEAD is better than 3.2?
> I have yet to see proof of that other than Costin's claims.
And the other committers and Larry and...
> > 3.3 is the obvious name and the discussion has always been around having
> > it or not.
>
> It may be obvious to you, however there has never been a proposal
> to make it so.
I am talking about names and you are throwing bureaucracy at me.
> > Catalina was a revolution, a proposal on following a different path.
> >
> > At the moment, for me (and possibly others) 3.3 is an evolution.
>
> No it isn't. That is where you are 100% wrong. 3.3 is a complete
> refactor of
> the core code and is therefore much more than just an evolution.
> If you had
> listened in on the conversation yesterday, like you should have, you would
> have had this clarified for you.
If you are happier that way, I am glad you keep telling what I should do.
I may have different ideas and still consider that to be an evolution.
Even if the majority of the PMC thinks one way, I still have the right
to think otherwise and talk accordingly.
> Again, you simply don't understand how development models work.
Sure! I went trough 12 years of software development without having a clue.
> > Maybe you feel happy has the beholder of the Truth but I do not feel I
> > have understanding problems when I do not agree with you.
>
> It is clear you don't understand things and now you are being left behind
> because you *choose* to not participate in the meeting where these things
> where clarified and discussed.
I am glad you are so happy for thinking you know what I understand or not.
Copy/Paste from my previous posting:
Not your business why I did or did not. (participate in the meeting)
- Maybe Boss wouldn't like if I was connected to the USA for such a long
time (I am in Europe, in case you didn't notice);
- Maybe I was at a customer;
- Maybe I had a dead line.
> > My main motivation in life is not supporting Costin. My main motivation
> > here is scratching my itches and I think that 3.3 will help.
>
> You *think*. What concrete evidence do you have to support that thought?
What concrete evidence to you have to support yours?
> [... a lot of bureaucracy crap that Jon uses when he has nothing more
> constructive to argument (i.e.: quite often)
> ...]
> Therefore, it is in your best interest to quit emailing me ...
I can stop when you stop. Give the example!
Remember: I only answer.
> ...and to figure out
> how you are going to prove that Tomcat 3.x will continue to be properly
> supported.
I will help several other people proving that.
> > Supporting him is important, but I have other priorities too.
>
> Like?
Are you my mother?
> > In the meantime, you arguments are so poor that I do not have to spend
> > so much brain power has if I was coding or something. It is kind of
> > having a break - I need breaks too you know?
>
> What part of my argument is poor?
What do you mean with "What part"?
> > You know nothing about me, my life and my schedule. It would be polite
> > if you would refrain to judge how I should spend my time.
>
> I haven't made any suggestions about how you should spend your time.
You did several. (Loss of short term memory again!)
> [... Some crap about how I should have done things! ...]
> > - Maybe I had a dead line.
>
> Go borrow a phone line.
Project dead line. Know the concept?
> Your reasons are seriously undermining everything that you give as an
> argument.
The idea is not giving you reasons. The idea is to tell you that I may
have a life outside Tomcat and other troubles to take care.
And it is not of you business.
Maybe you should not judge the people that weren't there so lightly.
> > I have seen other people defending the usefulness of 3.3 and
> that didn't sink
> > anything in your brain.
>
> THAT ISN'T THE QUESTION! Fuck! how many times does that need to
> be repeated
> to you?
For me, it is the main point. Keep repeating.
> > Beholder of the truth syndrome again?
>
> Beholder of a complete lack of ability to understand basic concepts
> syndrome?
LOL
> thanks,
> -jon
You're welcome,
Paulo
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