Speaking as a single user I have to say that I hope there is a 3.3. 4.0 sounds like it 
is so far off and in the mean time having a much faster container that has a variety 
of useful enhancements sounds good 
to me. Also, the idea of perfecting something by fixing architectural shortcomings and 
by bringing in stufff that didn't have time to make it into the last release has a lot 
of appeal.

I'd also like to draw an analogy with Linux: A tremendous amount of effort continued 
to go into improving the 2.2.x kernels while the 2.3.x tree was acfive. Also, many 
improvements were ported back to 
2.2.x. Granted, that takes more labour. You have to make that judgement call since you 
are much more labour limited than Linux is (its the Apollo moonshot of our era <g>). 
But its not inherently 
philosophically bad to try to improve the production software, even in major ways, 
while the next major version gets developed. In fact, it takes pressure off making a 
premature early release of the next big 
.0 version.

Another thing that something like 3.3 could do would be to try out some ideas that 
would get used out there and further inform 4.0 decision making.

As for what is the right decision: I don't know. The amount of info needed to make 
this decision is way way beyond the amount I have. I'm aware of my ignorance.

As for the personality clashes evidenced here: The people who most strongly feel that 
other people are behaving out of line are in many cases behaving out of line as well. 
Don't spend so much time 
thinking ill and speaking ill of your fellow humans. Its bad for you and for the 
project. Mellow out kids. This is supposed to be fun. If you don't get your way or you 
do get your way you will still be dead in the 
long run. 

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:09:15 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Therefore, I really don't see how Costin wanting to do a 3.3 is "against
>what everyone voted for."  I think it is a separate issue:  How long will
>the Jakarta Project and its community support the 3.x codebase in terms of
>enhancements, improvements, security fixes, etc.  Or, as you say:  "When
>does it stop?"



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