>*) Tomcat 3.x vs. Tomcat 4.x. We will be reaching a final decision
>    about the future of the Tomcat source base and what our process
>    for managing the factors that created the current situation will
>    be moving forward. For reference you may want to read:
>
>    http://www.x180.net/Mutterings/Apache/rules.html
>
>    The Chairman hereby requests that parties from both sides of this
>    debate be present at this meeting to discuss.

Given the PMC composition and the opinions expressed so far by some of the
PMC members and the silence of the others, I'm sure you'll understand
why I want to stop "beeing a party" of this project in general. 

If anyone wants to "debate" with Jon  - good luck, I had
enough of that already, and I have a feeling that even the subject of the
debate is wrongly choosen - ( the PMC "reaching final decisions about
the tomcat source" in 1/4 of an afternoon debate, instead of the project
commiters ). 

IMHO behaviors like Jon's should be the subject of the debate - but it
seems Jon is a PMC member and one of the organizers of the meeting. 

( in any case, I don't think I'm a "side" of any debate regarding tomcat -
I just contributed code and time to a project and got flames back )

Costin



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