Sorry Pier, but I find it very lame to use history against reason.

I do not see how your long personal history in Apache and all the
epic remarks you make about it translate into a reason for your
vote.

You are talking like an old politician and not like an Open Source
developer.


Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pier P. Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 12:38
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Fuck It.
>
>
> Jon Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > To: Costin and the rest of you who commented.
> >
> > You obviously know what is best and have shown me that I simply
> have my head
> > up my ass and I'm just a complete jerk and I should stop now
> and just let
> > you do whatever you want.
> >
> > I give up. All of my previous -1 votes are now +1.
> >
> > Have fun.
>
> It's sad, my friend, to see you giving up like this. We've traveled a long
> way together, from my very first steps in open-source land in
> January 1998,
> to our marvelous meeting at the first ApacheCON in October 1998,
> the Jakarta
> room meeting, all JavaONEs, and all we did together to bring this project
> where it is right now.

..........................

>
> So, here I stand, my vote is a big -1 on a 3.3 as a newly architected
> servlet container, +1 on fixing bugs on 3.2 (actually 3.2.1 since Craig
> excellently pulled out all those security issues), +1 on improving
> performances on 3.2.1 (and I don't care if it's going to be called 3.2.2,
> 3.3 or 3.9, fuck release numbers on 3.x) and a big +1 on Catalina as the
> base servlet container for 4.0 no matter what this is our future, whether
> you like it or not. All other containers, please wait for a 5.0.
>
> And for once, so, my votes are in disagreement with you, Jon... :)
>
> As one of the people behind the scenes since before each of you
> got here, I
> believe my vote counts, and now, please prove me wrong.
>
>     Pier
>
> --
> Pier Fumagalli  <http://www.betaversion.org/>
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