On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:56:36PM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote:
> Hi Nicholas,
> 
> A few reasons:
> - Cloning the credentials cache is important when you use ssh, because
> ssh will delete the original credentials cache on logout. Cloning the
> credentials cache is only possible when krenew is given a command to
> execute.
> - Because of the cloning krenew needs to change the environment
> variable pointing the the credentials cache.

are you sure it changes the environment variable? that is not normally
possible, it doesn't just renew what is already in there?

> - When running krenew with screen -Dm, the cloned tickets are removed
> when they're no longer needed. If you run krenew separately, you will
> have to kill it manually.
> 
> Best,
>  Mika
> 
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 16:38, Nicholas Marriott
> <nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > hi
> >
> > why not just run krenew separately from tmux?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 03:59:20PM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> in environments with Kerberos and especially NFS with Kerberos, it is
> >> important to keep the Kerberos credentials valid by renewing them at
> >> the proper time. Doubly so with screen or tmux sessions since they
> >> typically run for a longer time.
> >>
> >> There is the tool krenew which does this automatically. What it does
> >> is it clones the credentials cache, updates the appropriate
> >> environment variable, then starts the program and *while the program
> >> is running*, renews the credentials at the proper time. If the program
> >> exits, krenew exits as well, deleting the cloned credentials cache.
> >>
> >> It is possible to use screen together with krenew, by starting a
> >> screen session like this:
> >> krenew -b -- screen -D -m
> >>
> >> This starts a detached screen session but does not fork, so that
> >> krenew works properly.
> >>
> >> I haven't found a way to achieve this behavior with tmux. Is it
> >> currently possible? If so, how? If not, do you think it would be
> >> worthwhile to add an option to make it possible? Or do you have any
> >> other suggestions how to deal with this issue?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> ??Mika
> >>
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