On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 11:48 AM Paul Wouters <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2026, Watson Ladd wrote:
>
> [ speaking as (tired) individual only ]
>
> > On Tue, Mar 3, 2026, 12:58 PM Andrei Popov <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
>
> >  *  What does an RFC do here?
> > This has been brought up on the thread multiple times. SW vendors tend to 
> > ship support for RFCs, not IANA code points or individual I-Ds.
> >
> > Are you saying that this applies to you and you cannot ship support absent 
> > an RFC? It seems odd to talk about the reluctance of third parties to 
> > implement something
> > in talking about the interest you have in the draft.
>
> This argument was one of the blockers for the proposed
> draft-pwouters-crypto-current-practices, and I was squarely on the side of
> "A code point must be good enough for everyone". But that was not
> the consensus unfortunately.

I don't understand why failure to achieve a far more wide reaching
IETF consensus affects what the TLS WG should do, particularly as the
TLS WG made the registry changes to achieve what that draft wanted.

Sincerely,
Watson

>
> While we at IETF might have strong opinions that an RFC is not needed
> over a code point, we don't exist in a vaccum, and this position was
> unfortunately unsustainable in the real world.
>
> Additionally, my proposal tried to set equal rules for all crypto
> algorithms BEFORE we had too many RFCs done. Now that half the RFCs
> are published, it becomes even harder to tell those we don't yet have
> one that we decided that as of now, no one need one.
>
> It turns out the enemy was once again, ourselves :P
>
> Paul



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