Hi Sean,

> On Jun 4, 2025, at 9:14 AM, Sean Turner <s...@sn3rd.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2025, at 08:57, Mahesh Jethanandani via Datatracker 
>> <nore...@ietf.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Mahesh Jethanandani has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-tls-rfc8447bis-13: No Objection
>> 
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>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> COMMENT:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>>> D:  Indicates that the item is discouraged.  This marking could be
>>>    used to identify mechanisms that might result in problems if they
>>>    are used, such as a weak cryptographic algorithm or a mechanism
>>>    that might cause interoperability problems in deployment.  When
>>>    marking a registry entry as “D”, either the References or the
>>>    Comments Column MUST include sufficient information to determine
>>>    why the marking has been applied.  Implementers and users SHOULD
>>>    consult the linked references associated with the item to
>>>    determine the conditions under which the item SHOULD NOT or MUST
>>>    NOT be used.
>> 
>> First of all thanks to Barry Leiba for his ARTART review. I had a follow-up
>> comment to what he brought up and has to do with the last sentence of the 
>> above
>> paragraph. The fact that the document says "SHOULD NOT or MUST NOT" and not
>> just "MUST NOT" makes me think there might be conditions under which the item
>> may be used.
>> 
>> I would have therefore thought the linked reference might, in addition,
>> describe under what circumstances an item marked D might be used. If there 
>> are
>> none, why not just a "MUST NOT”?
> 
> Because this is marking that will be used for registry entries now and those 
> that come in the future, which we don’t know about.

Is there guidance on circumstances under which an item that is marked D may be 
used?

> 
> spt
> 
> 
> 

Mahesh Jethanandani
mjethanand...@gmail.com



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