Bellebaum, Thomas writes: > I am counting 22 expressions in favor of adoption and 7 opposing > adoption.
Thanks for doing the work to tally this, and for posting the details so that people can check your message and post any necessary adjustments. These numbers sound radically different from the AD's portrayal ("67 responses ... vast majority was in favour ... a few dissenting opinions"). My own impression, from having read all messages as they came in, was about a quarter of the people opposing, so I will be very surprised if adjustments end up big enough to rescue the AD's portrayal. So: Can we please now have an explanation from the chairs of how they arrived at "It looks like we have consensus to adopt this draft as a working group item"? To prevent any confusion about the procedures: Based on what I've seen (the whole discussion, not just the fragmentary information conveyed by numbers), I disagree with this declaration of consensus. I am therefore invoking the "first discuss the matter with the Working Group's chair(s)" provision of RFC 2026, Section 6.5.1. I ask for this discussion to be on-list for transparency. Within that, what I'm suggesting---both because I think it's the natural way forward, and because of transparency considerations; I'm not saying this is the only possibility under RFC 2026---is for the chairs to start by explaining to the WG how they evaluated consensus, so that we can all consider the explanation, rather than starting with a bunch of conflicting guesses from the rest of us regarding how consensus might have been evaluated. ---D. J. Bernstein _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to tls-le...@ietf.org