Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL writes: > How do you expect us to reach a consensus
Consensus on moving a hybrid PQ KEM forward? There's already WG adoption of hybrid-design, and in general the mailing-list discussions make hybrid PQ KEMs look like the easy case where there's ample support and nobody actually objecting---sure, there are some important details to look at, but the basic concept seems non-controversial. The situation is different for non-hybrid PQ, with opposing proposals to (1) ban non-hybrid PQ (main motivation stated: basically, the risks of further PQ breaks), or (2) standardize non-hybrid PQ (main motivation stated: basically, NSA demands this). There are various potential paths to resolving this controversy. Maybe the easiest is to realize that the NSA-demands-this claim looks like the sort of rumor that has a good chance of rapidly crumbling if we insist on evidence-based decisions. It's not that anyone has quoted an official NSA document prohibiting non-hybrid PQ. Meanwhile https://web.archive.org/web/20240925031754/https://media.defense.gov/2022/Sep/07/2003071834/-1/-1/0/CSA_CNSA_2.0_ALGORITHMS_.PDF is an official NSA document and says that "hybrid solutions may be allowed or required due to protocol standards, product availability, or interoperability requirements"; and https://web.archive.org/web/20220524232250/https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/75/documents/resources/everyone/csfc/threat-prevention.pdf is an official NSA document describing an NSA program that asks for multiple cryptographic layers to mitigate "the ability of an adversary to exploit a single cryptographic implementation". ---D. J. Bernstein _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to tls-le...@ietf.org